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shafeeqr
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04/04/2010 4:26 AM  
I shall appreciate if Jhelum organisation response. I shall be able to provide support the whole organisation. Jhelum politics is based on traditional politics of baradaries.
The next general election shall be foght on new grounds. Our organisation is ignorant of the local and national factors which play a major role in political battles. I shall also appreciate a media cell which can take all the information in every constituency,analyse the information and provide the data and help the organisation to develope locally developement plan so that people can see the alternatives we offer.
I request the Jhelum people to come out and let the district organisation to know where they are or how can they help to organise. A lot of people abroad believe thay can do nothing but I assure all of you that little help fronm each one will create a collective effort. I am ready to communicate the district organisation to help them create the new chapters. I hope all jhelum people would contact me or district organistion. My target is that we shall contest on all seats and hopefully we shall show the power of the people.
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04/04/2010 8:31 AM  
At the moment Jhelum is represented by the following people:
Raja mohammad Afzal      Raja baradari     Ex MNA     PML(N)
Raja Iqbal Mehdi                       //                    //            //
Raja Mohammad Asad(Son of Raja Mohammad Afzal) MNA PMN(N)
Raja Mohammad Safdar (Brother of Raja Mohammad Asad MNA PML(N)
Choudhry Mohammad Saqlain jatt MPA PML(N)
Mehr Fiaz  gujjar baradari MPA   PML(N)
Nadeem Khadim(gujjar baradari)
I forgot thte name of the NAWABZADA SHAMAS MPA PML(N)

Let us nowanalyse the political power in Jhelum. There are three dominating baradaries in Jhelum. Raja, Choudhry(jatt) and gujjar. these three baradaries are dominating the political scene since 1885 Elections. It was Choudhry Altaf,s mistake that he thought that he has won the Elections, His supporters annoyed the Sheikhs of Dinaotherwase Raja Afzal would have gone into wilderness. Choudhry Altaf lost by 400 votes. Those 4oo votes were Sheikhs of Dina. In 1988 It was peoples party who would have won the election. But at the time Dr. Ghulam Hussain who returned from exile. At the time He was Zulifqar Ali Bhutto of Jhelum. He was politiclly leftist during his exile and as Secretary General of Pkaistan Peoples Party worked against the feudals, America. Benazir was threatened by these leftist and also because of deal with America in 1984, she agreed to curtail the power base of these popular leaders within and outside the party. To marginalise she brought the Choudhry Altaf who was always groomed by agencies of Pakistan . She lost to her stupid approach. She lost Jhelum for ever. PPP shall not come back in Jhelum. Altaf's heirs are still working with the agencies. They shall wait for power. Their uncle Shahbaz is hosting dinners for Parvez Musharaf. Choudhry Fawad is advocate to Parvez Musharaf. They are neither with Choudhry Shujahat or Ham khial group. They are waiting for Parvez Musharaf.
Parvez Musharaf is History. No general can win in politics once he takes off his uniform.
Musharaf is the most corrupt murderous American agent.  Raja Afzal is still catering politics for his apparent heirs. They do not realise that Pakistan has changed since 2007. Pakistan is going through the different phases of Revolution. During this period a new battleground of politices is being mapped out. I assur you if we play the right politics, Tehreek e insaf will cmbat the hypocratic politics of Nawaz Sharif corrupt mafia who are  sponsored by Halbrook and Co.
We at the National level have to a alternative to these Zardari and Nwaz mafia. These are family clans and they are behaving like feudals. Once Independent Election Commission is in place and ongoing accountability procee speeds, It is us who should come out with people aspiration. Do not be afraid of these existing powers. They have no pwer base in people. They are competing with the power of thanas and patwaris.
I shall write more abut politics but my friends come and join with Imran Khan and not waste the time on petty matters within or outside the party. Concentrate on public and find thw ways to connect yourself with the public and find the traits of leadership hidden within yourself
Barlas
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04/04/2010 1:18 PM  
Dear PTI friend from Dina,
I can feel the frustrations and also ambition in your post to do something productive within PTI. I’m also from Jhelum city, a bit far from your place but at present based in London. I don’t want to go in the present structure of PTI Jhelum and their political background but I think, instead of you expecting or waiting for the organization’s people to contact you. You should approach them. I’m quiet sure you will be able to find their contacts, locally.
I can give you advise, if possible, don’t think about Baradaries’s business, its their you can’t move away from it. What PTI can do is the real democracy in the party. As far as the party elects their local leadership through the political process rather than relying on certain families or the wealth of the families. We have to educate ourselves and all the members about the political principles and process.That’s the only way we can bring new blood and those who deserve to come forward otherwise, we will keep suffering in the hands of few who knows the art of Baradaries blackmailing. Because of such incompetent and corrupt local leadership in the past, Jhelum has shrinked and become a centre of criminal activities.

You haven’t given your details, could you give your e-mail or contact number, I will contact you.


Mohammed Shabbir/Activist-East London:
Empowerment (Internal democracy)+Transparency + Accountability=Institution (PTI)
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Nauman_shah
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04/04/2010 4:47 PM  
I am also near dina. I reside in NY and grew up here so I dont know much about the poitiical history of Jhelum. My cousins who lived there all there life and now also live in NY have mentioned these names a few times. Like I said I dont know much about Jhelums political background since Im still young and in college but If you need my help I can try my best to help.

Dont give up guys. If just like this people start rising from each city with dedication and devotion than we can start a tornado of revolution and wipe out these choors away.

God Bless you guys. Keep it up.

Nauman Shah from Broklyn, NY
shafeeqr
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05/04/2010 2:22 AM  
Dear Nauman and barlas, I have youe Emails, I shall keep in touch. We have to believe ourselves that we together can bring a change. We shall bring change only when we have a cmprehensive programe to develope Jhelum. The division between the 3 baradaries have been devolped by existing leaders sponsored by establishement to keep our society divided for their own vested interests. I come from Jatt family. Educated in UK. Do not be afraid of Jamat e Islami and do not criticise them. Everybody know, they are not electable. We should convince the supporters of that party that if they are ideological party, they should vote Tehreek e insaf who is in better shape to fight Nawaz Sharif in Punjab. Nawaz Sharif is playing politics of neceesity, ordered by Americans through Saudi's.
In politics one has to see where he or she stands. I am creating directory of the people fronm Jhelum. Once I have enough people on board, I shall sit with them , have the analysis of the problems of Jhelum and how to solve them. I have lot of ideas.
majeedraja
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05/04/2010 4:59 AM  
@Shafeeqr, Dear Shafeeq Sb, I am Majeed Aslam Raja from village Chak Jani, Tehsil Pind Dadan Khan. I am working in a private organization in Islamabad. Can I have your phone number or email to stay intouch. We can make it, it is not that difficult to change the political scenario, but please answer me one question "Why we want to change?". Though it seems ridiculous but we must sure about our aim and cause. Looking forward from your side

Best Regards,
Majeed Aslam Raja

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shafeeqr
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05/04/2010 9:18 AM  
Dear Majeed Raja Sahib,
Thank you for response. My contact No. is 00442088474993/00447533052083. My Email [email protected]
Answer to your question about change is that Jhelum is being politically manipulated by family run poltical limited companies.This is feudal culture and it is not healthy for domocracy. It is very important to educate people about democracy. In order to have successful democratic institutions we should defeat the feudal mind. These polititians survive only on patwaris or thana culture. I assure you we shall defeat these thana  and putwarkhana cultures and develope Jhelum according to the principles of democracy.
My first task is to find the people in Jhelum and in evey area of Jhelum, groom them and train them to find their leadership qualities hidden within themselves. Initially for every Union Council of the District I need eleven people. Then we shall train groom and bring the best out of them, develope link with every villager of the district. The strong network and a comprhensive programme of developement will get the win in the elections. By next Elections it is not us who would win the elections but it shall be people of Jhelum who would win and they shall be proud of themselves. We together will not let the people of the district to be manipulated by these crime mafias. They are corrupt people, depend on the corrupt people and corrupt practices. More latter. Create a strong network of peope around you and then latter on we shall join together to create a strong leadership of Jhelum. we not only expose these corrupt elements but we shall give the people a strong alternative leadership. Keep in touch
majeedraja
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06/04/2010 4:52 AM  
Dear Shafeeq Sb,
AOA, Thanks for your kind reply, I think we first convey to masses what id our ideology? What we want to do? How we will bring the change? Be honest I have seen this politics from very close angle. People in Pakistan want change but do not want to participate in the process of change (As I observed in Jhelum, Mandi Bahaudin, Chakwal, Rawalpindi, Karachi). The youth is directionless, everyone wants to have a shortcut to achieve his / her desires; Nobody is eager to pay tax. So we must first clear within the party to align their thought and efforts to certain fix goals. We must have a road map on paper for our team to follow.

Here there is a misconception that PTI does not has Election winning personalities. Again thanks to Biradari system which impedes talent to flourish. In my opinion if we can convince people by our ideology and personal character, then there is no doubt about our win in coming elections. We must not rely on thrown away persons of other parties ( Example is Jaazi Sahab in last Rawalpindi By Election).

Last week I visited the Islamabad secretariat of PTI and inquire about Jhelum team, the brother there told me that all bodies are dissolved and new body will be announced after inter party election. If you know anyone in Jhelum team then please let me know so that we can share our thoughts with all the honorable members and start our campaign in the district.

I am thankful to you for your response

Best Regards,
Majeed Aslam Raja
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Ph: +92 333 5300635

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Nazir
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06/04/2010 5:16 PM  
Majeed sahib please contact these people

Sikandar hayat Gondal District Organizer 03007552365
Riaz Malik District Organizer 03348634286
majeedraja
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07/04/2010 5:39 AM  
@Dear Nazir Sb,

Thanks for your kind reply, I will contact Gondal & Malik Sb.

Best Wishes,
Majeed

Majeed Aslam Raja
shafeeqr
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14/04/2010 4:55 AM  
Whwere are you the members of Tehreek e insaf Jhelum? Share your views relating to organise the party in NA62 and NA63.
majeedraja
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15/04/2010 6:23 AM  
Dear Shafeeq Sb,

I contacted Gonadal Sb on phone but unfortunately couldnt met him last weekend. What are your views regarding Organization in Jhelum. I would be glad if Sikandar hayat Gondal or Malik Riaz Sb can come online or we can have a conference call to discuss the plans. We must coordinate earlier and launch a campaign in the distt.

Best Wishes & Regards,
Majeed Aslam Raja

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shafeeqr
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15/04/2010 9:08 AM  
Dear Majid sahib,
Contact Basharat Rabbani: 03335354200

Jhelum organisation is very weak. I am in UK at the moment. When I come to Pakistan
I shall talk to Major saadat sahib and try to open the chapters in all the major towns of Jhelum. Please try to create the new chapters starting from your village and provide me the names of all the members so that we can have a directory. Then we shall be able to guide with clarity, vision and right structure. Party can not contest the Election just on charisma. Basharat and Sikandar Hayat Gondal were working together when I visited Pakistan in November. Please keep in touch. At the moment I am busy helping the UK organisation. The PTI need big restructuring. All the Office bearers should be coming up through Elections but we need drive to strong membership all over Jhelum. I will let you know my plans of travel to Pakistan when I am ready. Till then you keep working according to your ability and capacity.
shafeeqr
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15/04/2010 9:48 AM  
Dear Majid sahib,
Contact Basharat Rabbani: 03335354200

Jhelum organisation is very weak. I am in UK at the moment. When I come to Pakistan
I shall talk to Major saadat sahib and try to open the chapters in all the major towns of Jhelum. Please try to create the new chapters starting from your village and provide me the names of all the members so that we can have a directory. Then we shall be able to guide with clarity, vision and right structure. Party can not contest the Election just on charisma. Basharat and Sikandar Hayat Gondal were working together when I visited Pakistan in November. Please keep in touch. At the moment I am busy helping the UK organisation. The PTI need big restructuring. All the Office bearers should be coming up through Elections but we need drive to strong membership all over Jhelum. I will let you know my plans of travel to Pakistan when I am ready. Till then you keep working according to your ability and capacity.
majeedraja
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19/04/2010 1:50 AM  
Dear Shafeeq Sb,

Thanks for the response, I will contact Rabbani Sb. today evening, we will discuss the things and keep posted to all the stakeholders.

Thanks & Best Regards,
Majeed

Majeed Aslam Raja
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26/04/2010 9:30 AM  
Dear Friends from Jhelum,

Please reveal your names and contact numbers with addresses, so that we can coordinate better as a team.

I am Majeed Aslam Raja, Village & P.O. Chak Jani, Tehsil Pind dadan Khan, Distt. Jhelum

Majeed Aslam Raja
shafeeqr
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27/04/2010 9:51 AM  
Dear friends of Jhelum,
My NAME: SHAFEEQ RABBANI
ADDRESS: VILL.& PO PINDJATTA DINA, TEHSIL DINA , DISTRICT JHELUM
TEL: 0442088474993/0447533052083
EMAIL: [email protected]
majeedraja
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07/06/2010 2:01 AM  
Dears,

Arshad Butt Sb, is the new president of Jhelum chapter, his phone number is 0092 300 5358234.

Best Wishes to all
Majeed

Majeed Aslam Raja
shafeeqr
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09/07/2010 8:52 AM  

I condemn the behaviour of Jhelum MPA Nadeem Khadim against the journalists outside Punjab Assembly. The behaviour shows the vulnerability of these MPA's. They are corrupt and goonda's and they are sponsors of qabza Group in Jhelum and promoting the Goonda culture in Politics. Beware of them and expose them in Jhelum constituencies.
Let us have strong team in Dina Jhelum Sohawa, Domeli, and Pind Dadan Khan. Prepare strong presentations and start a continuous membership drive. I have started contacting people from Jhelum in UK and soon we shall have chapters of NA 62 AND NA63 in UK and we shall develop it so strongly that it would enhance the performance back in Jhelum. I just had a very successful event in Slough UK. People from Oxford, High Wycombe and Woking participated in the event. People from the above mentioned town were from around Dina and Jhelum. Please activate this forum so that we have strong interaction and well informed about the activities from Jhelum members.

majeedraja
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12/07/2010 7:10 AM  
Dear Jhelumites,

Please join this forum to throwaway the QABZA groups and make this country a nice place to live.

Majeed Aslam Raja
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