tan.han
Posts:31
Insaf Activist
 | | 07/12/2011 1:15 PM |
| PLZ SUPPORT IK DECISIONS. On one hand we present our selves as die hard lovers of IK and on other hand we want him to follow our emotion at every stage. . . I think its not about making of cricket team or college or street level party who is going to participate in union council elections, its about winning 51% of NA seats while competing two big giants parties PPP n PMLn.
Please consider following points;
1- Why are we getting so impatient. Frankly my dears it looks to me as if IK has no wisdom, no gutts and its only the passion of youth that is making him a leader. Plz realize 'HE IS A LEADER AND WE ARE FOLLOWING HIM" and if you trust him as ur leader for revolution then trust him blindly for a while and be united under his decisions. Give him a moral support. Show him unity.
2- Politics are not only passion, it has certain ground realities which vary nation to nation, different in Iran, Egypt and France but entirely different scenario in Pakistan.
3- People who are supporting IK for last 15 years are sincere and we regard them, but admit that they are not capable enough to win 51% NA seats for IK.
4- As far I remeber SMQ has no eminent aligations of corruption. He seems aneat politician. n do we have any valid prooves that he quit ppp over ministry dispute, even if he left party over this dispute he had right to that as he is one of the old members who were very close to Bibi.
5- Why Quaid-eAzam had big names with him in leadership and many of them were nawabs and Fuderals. Now dont say that QA was incompetent, he was visionary and knew that he needs support of big influential names in society to run a successful movement. In the end that movement made Pakistan for us.
5- I see youth asking terrible question from IK that y are u going for SMQ, why are you not giving tickets to phd holder etc. Common guys what other parties will take impression, that IK cant even convince his party.
6- If you believe in IK, pray for him and let him do his job with the consultation of CEC, let him come in power, n then if he fails, we have full right to criticize his every decision. Till then follow the Chairman.
Pakistan Painda Baad, IK Zinda baad | | | |
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deepclouds
Posts:819
Insaf Shaheen
| | 07/12/2011 1:28 PM |
| Allah knows better what will happen in the future but the party will elect the next chairman and vice chairman,,Once PTI comes into power we will see the best options on the basis of who deliver how much,
In my opinion the best option is youngster leader for example waleed iqbal
as like old tony blair and gordon brown replaced by young ED miliband , | | | |
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saifi
Posts:279
Insaf Shaheen
| | 07/12/2011 1:29 PM |
| If IK have to leave today then party would finish anyway!
If Allah give's IK time to reform and make PTI as an elected instituation then we wouldn't be having this sort of discussion.
I have to say this is useless and out of context discussion!!
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inqalabi
Posts:70
Insaf Tiger
| | 07/12/2011 2:31 PM |
| | Hamid Khan, Dr. Arif Alvi and Justice Wajeeh-u-Din and other 15years old leaders, what they have done for party on field. Can you answer me?have These people constituency?Are they go to commom people?Are They gathers people fot PTI? can hamid khan win individuali?They all are drawing room leaders.So plz dont make issue for SMQ.He is asset for PTI.In his presence we are sure for minimum 10 seats in NA.And in south punjab and in sindh ,only he can collect votes for PTI.In rural areas, there is no value of ideology, but value of strong politicians like SMQ. | | | |
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muiz2610
Posts:263
Insaf Shaheen
| | 07/12/2011 2:50 PM |
| | You dont even know k CEC is the most powerful body....even IK bechara kuch nhi kersakta unke aage...Are yaar plz party ko support keren....We need to get into Power first yaar!!!! | | | |
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siji
Posts:20
Insaf Activist
| | 07/12/2011 3:57 PM |
| | i dun support him | | | |
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saudmalik
Posts:6
Insaf Member
| | 07/12/2011 4:12 PM |
| Let Imran Khan lead now, and lets not think what is gonna happen after this and that. Let us just concentrate on achieving our target to make Pakistan successful. This kind of thinking will lead us nowhere, if we just kept thinking whats gonna happen if this happened  | | | |
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ikhlaqniazi1494
Posts:392
Insaf Shaheen
| | 07/12/2011 4:19 PM |
| | SMQ is not Leading us he is working as a vice Chairman and IK is the chairman and if smq will win party election lately then he will lead otherwise this is the right of chairman. | | | |
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RASOOLEJ
Posts:130
Insaf Shaheen
| | 07/12/2011 5:10 PM |
| Salam Everyone,
It is a fair question and I will try to answer it on the basis of values. Let me first quote some of the permanent values on which all members of the PTI agree. These are- Insaf; accountability; equality; dignity; poverty elimination; honesty; meritocracy; righteousness, education, health ....
SMQ joined the movement on what values? As for as I know he has mentioned - Raymond Davis, Zardari and his aim regarding nuclear assets which he would like to disclose somewhere in the future, .... Has he mentioned any of the permanent values as noted above??? How will these issues which he mentioned impact on a 'yateem' and 'miskeen'? Did he talk of resolving poor man's issues in his jalsa? He did mention of Benazir Bhutto and her 'values' when he decided to leave PPP? What are those values - hope everyone knows that due to Benazir's values the country is in a mess...
The law of requital states - what we sow, so shall we reap. It does not change for anyone. SMQ should be observed closely for what he says and we must compare his conduct against these values - if he follows these through word and conduct then he is part of the PTI and if not then we must let CEC know that to say salam to him at the earliest opportunity... If PTI doesn't do it then we will be going against these values and the time is fast running out for the country as the deeds have reached the stage of inviting a very high accountability. So let us not loose this opportunity to waste the trust of the ordinary people of Pakistan. They deserve better treatment and not the same lot of politicians who enslave others without any fear of Allah.
I think I have said it all for everyone to judge it...
Salam | | | |
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fiazpk
Posts:466
Insaf Shaheen
| | 07/12/2011 7:16 PM |
| One should compromise for his goal but must not comprise on his goal at all.
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tariqtk
Posts:45
Insaf Activist
| | 07/12/2011 8:45 PM |
| | I accepted Imran Khan as a change agent and looking forward for INSAAF in society and above all Corruption Free Society. If SMQ following Manifesto of PTI than why not. Please dont talk about personalities. Lets Talk About Future Of Pakistan. After 15 or 20 years there will be no active Imran Khan or SMQ but INSHALLAH Pakistan Rahey ga. MAKE PTI AS AN INSTITUTION AND SUSTAINABLE POLITICAL FORCE. I m sure PTI will win next election but the main thing is social service and Welfare Of People Of Pakistan, so get ready for tough and full of handwork 5 years Inshallah. IMRAN KHAN and SMQ CANT DO ANYTHING but people of pakistan can do.We will love SMQ if he help people of pakistan to get rid of injustice and corruption.Wish U All Best Of Luck | | | |
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R9999
Posts:9
Insaf Member
| | 07/12/2011 9:18 PM |
| Who says SMQ will lead after IK ?
Just because someone is Deputy Doesnt mean tomorrow they will be Leader. Political Parties are fluid, it doenst work in order of seniority. Although it would be good for stability if Deputy becomes Chairman
I like SMQ, I think he is a good person with good understanding of Foreign Affairs.
My own Personal guess is SMQ will not enter National politics from 2013-2017 but instead CM of Punjab | | | |
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siji
Posts:20
Insaf Activist
| | 08/12/2011 5:36 AM |
| in my opinion, Arif Alvi shud b de next Chairman ...but May Allah give long life my dearest immi
Ameen | | | |
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risingstar7813
Posts:152
Insaf Shaheen
| | 08/12/2011 12:50 PM |
| | Unity is strength and once a decision has been taken by the senior party leaders, it must be supported by every member wholeheartedly. As I said in my previous writings we are just establishing a new party nationwide. we need support of everybody living in Pakistan and every one should be welcomed as they are Pakistani too. Every person is the builder of there own destiny. People are bound to change and evolve with the time today we need unity and we need wisdom to progress. | |
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shlay24
Posts:2
Insaf Member
| | 08/12/2011 1:51 PM |
| | NO | |
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myk226
Posts:7
Insaf Member
| | 08/12/2011 2:07 PM |
| | Its too early to judge him to be chairman of PTI wait and see his services contribution over a extended period of time especially when the party is in trouble water a leader has to prove his worth to lead a party. | | | |
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Qnadeem
Posts:114
Insaf Shaheen
| | 08/12/2011 2:49 PM |
| for those people who are advocating that what these old Insafeans (Dr. Arif Alvi etc) have done for PTI ? and they say they not done anything?
I am really depressed whats injustice it is, just suppose if all these poeple were not with IK, how can he would be surviving in the politics? these are guys who stood with IK persistantly and now the party is in the main stream. will you tell me who made the successful Jalsa in Lahore, if it was not the efforts of these old guys then it must be a "Miracle" of unseen hand?
Guys for God sake dont disgrace anyone, you give the office of PTI to any one but remember your friends that were your freinds in rainy days.
if my freinds on this forum wants even Asif Ali Zardari inPTI I wont mind but if your don;t recognise the efforts of people who gave their blood I really feel sad. | | | |
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MNaqvi
Posts:115
Insaf Shaheen
| | 08/12/2011 4:56 PM |
| While I did not disagree with Shah Mehmood Qureshi joining, I felt that he should have been given a six month probation period from being a major office position holder in PTI. Let him prove his merit and loyality to PTI and its ideology.
It is unquestionable that he is a man with great qualifications and experience. Having said that, no one is above the rules. There are many senior members who have been with the party for a long time. I believe therefore, for people like him and other people who join PTI, should be given a probation period before they achieve a position in an office. It is far as it makes them work to prove their merit and right now, we need people who can work. | | | |
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fiazpk
Posts:466
Insaf Shaheen
| | 08/12/2011 5:11 PM |
| | if you see some compromises in party. Do not be disappointed.
There is nothing like 100% idealism or 100% realism.
Some times, some thing can be compromised for a actual goal but a goal can never be compromised for any thing.
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