majeedraja
Posts:341
Insaf Shaheen
 | | 26/04/2010 9:26 AM |
| @Dear Leader, Please try to accept realities, MQM is a reality, one should not say words like Muhajir or Punjabi or Pukhtoon etc, we are a national party, MQM is making ways beyond urban Sindh, it is a healthy sign. We as PTI must focus on our own Weaknesses, strengths and oppertunities, we are facing different threats. Dont loose your faith and temperament. | |
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abytude
Posts:864
Insaf Shaheen
| | 26/04/2010 11:12 AM |
| We have complete faith in our nation and our workers, PTI is very strong alhumdulillah.
Choose a bigger foe and we have already chosen Nawaz Sharif to beat and nest round we will Inshallah.
The world knows how MQM win their seats in karachi, conquest of Punjab is a distant dream and i am pretty sure it wont be conceived in the life of Altaf. | | | |
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omerzaheer
Posts:705
Insaf Shaheen
| | 26/04/2010 11:33 AM |
| Thanks for the compliments and inputs.
@ Waheed .... Nice to see you here bro.
As I said before the point is not that it was a media spin or that MQM got its people from Karachi but rather that they made the impression they wanted are now in the reckoning in Punjab.
Whether they would be successful would depend on how they defend themselves and play their cards.
As for PTI, we should take our lessons and practical steps NOW or be ready for people thinking of others as genuine alternatives instead of us. | |
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Leader.
Posts:1637
Insaf Shaheen
| | 26/04/2010 12:43 PM |
| @majeedraja I am not ready to accept MQM as reality or a party. It is a terrorist organisation. As far as respect for Muhajirs is concerned, my parents are Mohajirs but I don't call myself Mohajir as I was born in MY Pakistan. I have respect for Mohajirs but not for those who are supporting this terrorist organisation just because they use the word 'Mohajir'.
YesterdayAltaf was claiming "We will turn President house and governor house etc to Universities after coming into Power" and these brain washed 'Mohajirs were clapping instead of asking this idiot that why don't u do this to Sind Governor House? They r in power in Sindh?
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moonsoon
Posts:33
Insaf Activist
| | 04/05/2010 5:24 PM |
| plz dont be impatient , dont be afraid of any political p
arty , if u really want ro tell people to come to ur party , show them with ur character , its not that easy to get 'inqlaab'
imran khan didnt form this party to get the power , he formed this party to get sincere leadership for pakistan. sincere people to rule who consoder themselves slaves to people,
everyone says pti should do this , should do that //////
isnt it better to fight evil with ur inner truth ,
i have request to everyone to do positive work even if its a suggestion , dont loose ur hope
believe in truth
believe in the ultimate power
if we are the right people with clean hearts we ll get there.
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sharazi
Posts:8
Insaf Member
| | 27/08/2010 3:21 AM |
| its right they are getting in in punjab. our leaders should think on this. AND I LIKE TO MENTION HARE THAT OMER SB HOULD BE GRABED AND SHOULD STAND AS LEADER IN PTI. He is a man who have gest qualification and ideology to work as a leader. Hope you agree. | | | |
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sabihafazal
Posts:222
Insaf Shaheen
| | 27/08/2010 5:30 AM |
| | true and mqm is becoming a big force in national politics. i always say that young and talented leadership is the way forward. if a fascist and terrorist party like mqm can get good image by putting forward talented and educated young people why can pti not do it?. Imran Khan need to wake up if he is sincere about the inqilaab get youth involved and be neutral re internal party politics. trust the youth they can take the party to enxt level and it will not be divided. Sharazi bhai I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. OMER SB IS ALREADY BECOMING AN ICON OF THE YOUTH AND HE SHOULD BE GRABBED FOR SPECIALLY LAHORE WHICH IS BASE OF PMLN AND ONLY STRONG AND TALENTED PEOPLE LIKE HIM CAN TAKE PTI AHEAD THERE. | | | |
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Leader.
Posts:1637
Insaf Shaheen
| | 27/08/2010 5:56 AM |
| | I haven't seen a single person in Punjab who doesn't hate MQM and you are talking people supporting them. It is not a posibility. I don't think any Pakistani will forget how they used to abuse Punjabies and sindhies few years back. Everyone also know that they are Ghundas of Karachi so how do you expect anyone supporting them. Only people who support MQM in Karachi is only because of their use of word "Mohajir". Getting huge media coverage due to their blackmailing doesn;t mean that they are getting public support aswell. | | | |
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Moazam Ali
Posts:449
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 27/08/2010 7:48 AM |
| I completely agree with posts by Leader,MQM is absolutely unacceptable it is a Terrorist Organistaion,corrupt,Secular,it promotes vulgarity and abscenity in society and is against any kind of Islamic Principles or values and the one who has the courage to oppose it will get the Support of millions of people.
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mani awan
Posts:91
Insaf Tiger
| | 27/08/2010 10:08 AM |
| @leader
jani kiya ap ky na samjny sy MQM party tu khatam nahi hu gi. dear en logon ny apny har election mein pehly sy ziyada voet aur seat lein hein. aur islamabad mein banany wali har governmentka hisa hein.
punjab mein whu kiya lety kiya dety hein yeh mera masla nahi. MQM ak well organized party hy whu seats es liy lety hein ky en ki jareen gali level par hein.
ALTAF HUSSAIN etna bura khtab karta hy likan koi bi hilta nahi.party deciplane hy jani aur hamri youtube par dicipline ki vedio hamara pti ka monh charati hy.
hum ko MQM sy achi chezein sekhnai chahyein
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anti-government
Posts:1016
Insaf Shaheen
| | 27/08/2010 11:08 AM |
| Its all about MEDIA Coverage 
Have you covered PTI ME Tent Kitchen yet ? NOPE ... and I bet if it was established by MQM it would had become a Headline News | |
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Leader.
Posts:1637
Insaf Shaheen
| | 27/08/2010 11:26 AM |
| this is not discipline, it is dictatorship. PEople listen to Altaf because they r worried for their life.
I don't want such discipline in PTI. | | | |
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mehmoodsha
Posts:35
Insaf Activist
| | 27/08/2010 11:30 AM |
| | We should stop calling other parties terrorist and facist organizations. whatever you think MQM is, they have roots in the public. MQM top leadership came from middle-family background. They brought common people in national and provincial assembly. What about PTI, whats the guy name ( Abbas Khokhar? I dont remember) who recently lost election in Lahore against PML (N) candidate (NA 160?).This guy has a strong family background. Should we expect that such people will serve PTI and nation.
IK views in media are totally different what we see on the ground. He is not bringing in the fresh blood. In last 14 years, how many times PTI took part in elections? Have we tried common people. Bhutto did give tickets to common party workers.
NA-160 results didnt reflect PTI voting power ( we should face the facts), it was Khokhar family factor.
Its a time to come up with fresh strategy. I know moderator is not happy with my posts. He thinks I only see the half empty glass, I dont see half full. But I think PTI members should send a strong message to leadership that they want change. | |
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Moazam Ali
Posts:449
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 27/08/2010 2:44 PM |
| MQM is a criminal organisation,they promote crime,they give money,power and authority to thier people by giving them weapons and by supporting them,they get their dirty work done by them and then when time comes they kill that person themselves and bring another one.everyone knows about their criminal activities,batta,dacaiti,chori,kabza aur mukhalifoon ko jan say marna.
They say something and do something else,they talk against Jagirdars,wadaray and corrupt politicians but they are always siting with them,they are always part of them in the government,they have always been in government in one form or the other to get personal benefits,to get thier share.
They dont even have a Quality Leader.
It now also has the Support of Foreign anti Islamic forces and is part of the larger game.
There is absolutely no use of any one from middle class being educated if he does not do the right things,we dont blindly support anyone on the basis that he is educated and is from middle class but instead we judge people according to what they do.We will never Support parhe likhay jahil.
Majority of the people till now oppose MQM and want to see it get destroyed forever,this is the popular sentiment but even majority turn in its favour for various reasons wrong will remain wrong and its oppositon will continue in every possible way no matter what the consequences.
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mani awan
Posts:91
Insaf Tiger
| | 27/08/2010 2:50 PM |
| leader
agar khuf huta tu sawat mein abi talban hi huty ya kam sy kam logon mein en ka khuf huta.
MQM mein tanzeem sazi behtar hy.
jabky PTI ky rawalpindi mein 50000 member thy. jazi ko mily sirf 3000. farz karo jazi ghalat admi tha ya hy kiya members ko party ki pervi nahi karni chay. PTI ko gali mahaly ki sata par kam karna chahy.
ap bolty hu baradri shehar mein baradri kuch nahi huti. balky last election mein union nazim mery ghaon(village) mein ju jeta es ki baradri ky buri union conceal mein sirf 26 voet thy. election mien mehnat aur khedmat kam ayti hy | | | |
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sabihafazal
Posts:222
Insaf Shaheen
| | 27/08/2010 3:15 PM |
| | mehmood bhai that is what mqm is please go and ask anyone with inside information. or go and live in gulshan or azizabad for just one year and you will know its their death squad and terror that keep people forced to do their way. my point was that if such a bad organisation can gain so much good will by getting talented and skilled people forward why pti has to look to traditionalists or the likes of kashmala tariq why not the likes of the Mr. Omer or YOUTH parliment members of pti and many other talented people. | | | |
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anti-government
Posts:1016
Insaf Shaheen
| | 27/08/2010 4:53 PM |
| | "MQM has two wings; Political Wing and Terrorist Wing" - Benazir Bhutto (Meray Mutabiq 17th Oct 2010) | |
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anti-government
Posts:1016
Insaf Shaheen
| | 27/08/2010 4:59 PM |
| Posted By Leader. on 27/08/2010 11:26 AM
this is not discipline, it is dictatorship. PEople listen to Altaf because they r worried for their life.
I don't want such discipline in PTI. 1000000000% right.. I second that !!
I have few questions for all those who says "MQM is very well organized"..
When MQM had intra-party elections last time ? What's the organization structure of MQM ? What's the procedure of electing Raabita committee member ? What's the procedure of electing Sector/Unit incharge ?
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mehmoodsha
Posts:35
Insaf Activist
| | 27/08/2010 7:17 PM |
| | Well, Yes we should discuss landlords, mafia and terrorist organizations but we should not spend all our energy on debating others wrongs and right.
Mid-Term elections are th possibility within next 6-12 months so what we (PTI members) are doing for PTI. IK no doubt is a leader who can put Pakistan on right track but he has no team. Some time I wonder why PTI couldnt become a stream-line party. There are several reasons for this which I post as a seperate topic soon. | |
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anti-government
Posts:1016
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/08/2010 7:42 PM |
| Posted By anti-government on 27/08/2010 4:53 PM
"MQM has two wings; Political Wing and Terrorist Wing" - Benazir Bhutto (Meray Mutabiq 17th Oct 2010)
* Correction
(Meray Mutabiq 17th Oct 2007)
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