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hammad.afridi
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07/01/2012 8:52 AM  
Hi everyone,
I would second Ali Shabbir Khan.Do not underestimate urdu speaking community. I am urdu speaking and obv my relatives are urdr speaking as well. I have talked to many of them and most of them want to vote for IK. I myself live in fb area (which is main area of MQM, 90 is not too far) and will definitely be voting IK. Thats right, people are fedup of MQM now. I think the most important is that people go out and vote pti on the day who have never voted in the past. People have realized that IK is the leader but all will matter on the day.
Tariq24
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07/01/2012 9:41 AM  
Hi All
 
I m from Talagang Chakwal, recently Mr. Faiz Taman (Ex-MNA PML N, NA-61), Col. Surkhuroo (Ex-MPA QLeague) from Talagang and Sardar Ghulam Abbas (Ex-MNA Qleague NA-61 ) from Chakwal joined PTI, It ill be a good choice for PTI to give MPA Ticket to Col.Surkhuroo from Talagang. Mr. Faiz Taman held a fake degree thats why he resigned from PML N and National Assembly previously, He is not a competent man and unpopular due to fake degree although he has had vote bank, i have heard that Gen Retd Abdul Qayoom from Chakwal may join PTI, i like him bcz he is a very able person, he changed Pakistan Steal Mills into profit when he was its head, if he joins PTI he must be given ticket to contest MNA election from Chakwal. Sardar Ghulam Abbas also have vote bank bcz he completed so many projects in Chakwal Talagang when he was MNA from QLeague ......

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abdulmaalik
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07/01/2012 10:07 AM  
Dear insafians! while making projections for the expected seats, please take into account the worst popularity of PPP, the declining popularity of N-league and rising popularity of PTI.This will come into play in all those constituencies where party vote has some significance.PPP is going to face nearly the same outcome as was in 1997 elections as the party has no more fresh martyr to get the sympathy vote.
Dear Aboubakar: Your estimation of NA 20 assumes that PTI and N-league will draw from same votebank might not be correct as PTI will grab votes from all quarters, inshaallah; from N-league, from PPP and from those who never voted.
fiazpk
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07/01/2012 10:20 AM  
@w h warraich

{{let me ring my brother and ask about which na and pa we belong to and who is there for pti }}



OK,after calling your brother, come back and tell us the news you have.

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Ali Shabbir Khan
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07/01/2012 10:30 AM  
We can go on a calculated rampage in Karachi, I'm certain of that. We will eat into a lot of support of ANP, PPP, PML and MQM to make good numbers overall. The zeal and fervor of the people will play a vital part - Imran as a motivator would have planned his move timely.

I know of the demographics and general psyche of the people of the city well enough. MQM relies heavily on hijacking the ballot process, and apart from that it does not really command wholehearted support of any more than say 30% of the Urdu-speaking community (and roughly half the population of Karachi is Urdu-speaking). Lots of people get calls by local MQM offices that their votes would be cast anyway and they don't need to show up at the polling station! So let's hope on a free and fair election process.

I like this soft and convincing approach of IK. You select your approach and strategy according to the pitch where the match is being played and Imran is holding on to a calculated strategy which will be spun mainly in the run-up to the elections. He has prepared the ground for an onslaught in the last Jalsa and his speech in which he admired Karachiites for not giving way to fear. Now, he would up the ante only when there is clear sight of the election day, the master strategist that Khan Sahab is. A lot will depend on the protection and monitoring afforded to the electorate by the administration authorities and the agencies on the election day.

People killl in the name of religon, people are corrupt in the name of democracy. Problem isn't with religon or democracy, but with people.
- Imran Khan
fiazpk
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07/01/2012 10:59 AM  
@abdulmaalik

Yes, I agree.

PPP is finished, it will not get vote on party base, their main leaders will win in rural areas but depending on their own vote bank and influence in area. PPP ticket is not so important.
N. league is going downwards.

PTI is rising up.

SO PTI will have vote on multiple reasons.

1. the disappointing people from any party, disappointed from ppp, N league, MQM,ANP, JUI, JU or any other party, will vote PTI.
So if a voter is disappointed from his party, he will be voting PTI.

2. Many peopel did not vote any one in Past. They will come to vote PTI.

3.PTI has increazed its own vote bank.

4. New voters, who are now in age of voting but did not have vote in past elections, will vote for PTI(Most of them)

so, when we have a candidate having some vote bank, having average influence in area, he can win, or we may expect his victory.




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kamran253
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07/01/2012 11:13 AM  
i work in distt lodhran and belong to distt rahim yar khan. Here is lodhran no big name has joined pti. Likely candidate is jahangir tareen and any any new face most likely dr.kamran abbas who fought previous election as independent candidate and got barely few thousand votes. Jahangir tareen has no political roots here in lodhran. He previously was mna from rahim yar khan from seat of his brother in law mukhdom ahmad mehmood. But jahangir tareen have to leave rahim yar khan politics due to fight with his brother in law. So he is trying to feet in lodhran but i dont see much of his chances . On the other hand dr.kamran abbas is new face and working hard and he is visiting every village and town in lodhran. People are accepting him as imran khan change due to his youth and hard work. I am more hopeful about him to win a seat for pti than jahangir tareen.
kamran253
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07/01/2012 11:31 AM  
i will also request members here while thinking about anyone as winning candidate, must consider how much he is working hard for pti these days. I will like to quote son of our local ppp leader that even imran khan gave ticket to a dog i will vote for him. So anyone no matter he is new if he is working hard for pti and meeting people as candidate of imran khan then he has very good chance of winning. So consider such people as winning candidates who are working hard in their areas as pti possible candidates
babarkhattak
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07/01/2012 12:10 PM  
This is a very usefull thread. I just wonder if the information provided by our friends can somehow be arranged in the order of NAs so that for one a particular consituency can be easily searched and secondly this info can be updated with time
amajid.malik
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07/01/2012 12:48 PM  
NA-20 and NA-21: I saw some interest in members in knowing what is expected here:

NA-20: Sardar Yusuf won it with a close margin in 2002 against L. General(r) Salahuddin Tirmizi and Ghulam Nabi Shah of MMA. In 2008, I think PML-N did a seat to seat adjustment with JUI(Fazl) so there was one to one competition of Sardar Shah Jehan Yusuf( Son of Sardar Yusuf) and Salahuddin Tirmizi. What a fighit it was! Every day the winner was changing but finally Shah Jehahan Yusuf was declared as winner on PML-Q ticket due to following reasons.

1. Shah Jehan Yusuf was fully supported by his biradari (Gujjar)
2. Sardar Yusuf was district Nazim , hence the resulting influence
3. Nawaz Sharif was not allowed to hold a jalsa in Mansehra due to some issues.
4. Salahuddin Tirmizi is not knows as man of masses and is famous as someone having "sarya in gardan". Retired General so you can understand the mentality.

Comes 2012:

Azam Khan has announced to contest from NA-20 on a PTI ticket. This is an interesting development as previously he was more known for NA-21. In NA- 21 he played role as a king maker. So NA- 20 is not his constituency in that sense. Any how Mr. Azam Khan Swati defeated Sardar Yusuf in District Nazim elections in 2001 which were indirect elections. So he has rapport with localy influential people (union council nazims etc) in NA-20. Moreover he is from one of strong biradaries(Swati) of Mansehra. which has a considerable presence and influence in NA- 20.
Azam Swati was in good terms with Salahuddin Tirmizi in 2008. Mr. Azam Swati is also known for spending heavily in elections. PML-N will definitely contest from this constituency in the form of Captain Safdar or Salahuddin Tirmizi. Just like in 2002, it is expected to be a very close contest. If Azam Swati has decided to stand from NA-20, he might have done his homework so I expect some provincial assembly candidates( PF-53,PF 54) joining PTI (Azam Swati group). This would be a hell of fight and I being a political animal would jump in it in whatever way I can.

NA-21:

Azam Swati's brother Laiq Khan who won because of Azam Swati wants to stay with JUI. You never know about politicians but till now there is no sign of him leaving JUI. Some development tell that he is not going to join PTI. Now this is a very tough constituency. The remaining strong players are Nawabzada Salahuddin Saeed, Zargul Khan, Captain Safar brother Tahir Ali). PTI candidate Niazl Surkheli got only 4000 votes in a bye election 2 years ago so he is a no no.
For Azam Swati also this would be a test to support someone against his brother. Lets see what happens here. One things is sure if some big name did not join from here, there is no chance. Zargul Khan showed some interest but he is in Sardar Yusuf Group. Azam Swati said that PTI would win 6 out of 7 seats in Hazara. May be he will do some seat adjustment at NA-21 and leave the field open for his brother.

Alot depends upon how Mr. Swati handles the situation in Mansehra and adjoining districts. How he plays his card would affect the outcome of PTI. He is now a seasoned player and I expect good results from him.

ModEdit: correction made on request of poster.
abdulmaalik
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07/01/2012 2:11 PM  
Being a Sargodhian, I update you about the possible outcome in District Sargodha.
NA 64: Mr.Haroon Ihsan Paracha (PTI) has very good chance of winning against Nadeem Afzal Gondal (PPP).This is because this the latter won here only due to PPP's party votebank which is going to shatter badly in coming elections.
NA 65: This is one of the most backward area of Punjab.PTI has no chance to win here unless some influential joins it. Last time Ch.Ghias Ahmed Mela (Q-league) won against Mehar Khaliq Yar Lak (PPP) by a margin of 250 votes.Another candidate who got considerable votes was Barrister Mohsin Shahnawaz Ranjha (N-league) who is a young and educated person.If PTI can make him or Ch.Gias join, only then we can win this seat.
NA 66: This is Sargodha city's seat and currently held by Tasneem Qureshi (PPP) who defeated Ch.Hamid Hameed (N-league) by 4000 votes.PTI has Malik Shoiab Awan here but he does not have a chance to win.The only way is to win here is to make Hamid Hameed join PTI as he is not happy with N-league.
NA 67: This seat has been won by Ch.Anwar Ali Cheema (Q-league) consecutively for the last 7 times.This is his personal votebank as he has done a lot of work in this area over the last 20 years.PTI has no chance over here and he will not join PTI as he is a very close relative of Ch.Shujaat.
NA 68: Mian Mazhar Qureshi (PTI) has very good chance of winning this time.Last time he was runner up with 56000 votes and was contesting as independent.He has his personal votebank in this area.
fiazpk
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07/01/2012 3:04 PM  
@babarkhattak

Yes, i agree.

I will try to find time and put all information shared here in this topic constituency wise in one post.

But still it is the beginning. There will be many new things in future, and we members will be updating the information.


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Pakistan great
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07/01/2012 3:22 PM  
can some one tell me about the condition of pti in na 107
amajid.malik
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07/01/2012 4:26 PM  
There should be a data base on District wise basis (kind of Election Cell) on the PTI website containing following fields of information:


1. Details of PTI office bearers in that particular District. Contacts and Designitions. Addresses and contacts of offices

2. Details of political situation of each National and provincial assembly constituency in that district.

2.1. Political Nature
2.2 important factors which influence voter's mind, major biradries etc.
2.3. Rural Urban Divide
2.4. Political history of the constituency
2.5. Popularity of PTI in that constituency as a party

3. Likely PTI ticket applicants from each constituency.

4. Any personality which should be invited to PTI for a particular constituency

5. Possibility for members to choose from applicants of a PTI ticket for a particular constituency. some kind of pole.

6. Scan of voters list of that particular NA or PA constituency.

7. Latest News section

8. Possibility of members to comment regarding any particular NA or PA constituency

Some other fields can also be thought about each constituency by intelligent members of PTI.

Just like this thread Members would provide information about a particular constituency in their district. The information would be updated regulary as situation changes.This excellent database would be helpful even for electoral board of the party which would award tickets. PTI members would also find it easy to know each constituency and possibility of PTI in any particular constituency of any particular district.

I have given this proposal 3,4 times but there may be issues known to moderators that it is not being implemented. Guys(designers,managers,moderaters,developers of insaf. pk) please, make such an election cell and than see great response of members here.
I will fill whatever I know about areas I know best.
fiazpk
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08/01/2012 5:42 AM  
abdulmaalik

in sargodha- NA64 and NA68

are expected seats for PTI.


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fiazpk
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08/01/2012 6:22 AM  
@hammad.afridi

i can get an idea that we are growing in Karachi as well.

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fiazpk
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08/01/2012 6:30 AM  
IN Sahiwal, situation is not clear.


Anwar-ul-Haq ramay has joined pti

Nouraiz Shakoor may join as sources said

Rai Aziz Ahmed Khan also joined

Rao Zaid bin Ismael from tehreeke istaqlal is also now with pti.

let us see who else joins us and who is our ticket holder.

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Abubakar Farooqui
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08/01/2012 6:35 AM  
I would like you to Tell About Ma city Islamabad, Here NA 48 is a seat where in 2002 Mian Aslam of MMA won, and he is very strong candidate, Mian Aslam also defeated Zafar Ali Shah of PMLN and BABAR Awan of PPP but in 2008, due to Boycott of JI, Mian Aslam didnt contest and PMLN candidate Anjum Aqeel Khan won here defeating PPP and PMLQ but People are not tired of him because he is involved in Huge corruption cases and NA 48 islamabad is most Important seat so Imran KHAN should contest from ISLAMABAD na 48 to fight with Mian Aslam and Anjum Aqeel. NA 49 Islamabad It is the seat where Nayyer Bukhari PPP, Nawaz Khokhar PMLQ and Tariq Fazal pmln contest but due to PMLQ and PPP alliance only Nayyer Bukhari will contest and Tariq Fazal from PMLN will contest who both will Face Chauhdry Ilyas Mehrban of PTI who is not predicted to win but there are some chances. Nayyer Bukhari PPP has strong chances of winning because here is the strong influence of Nawaz KHOKHAR of PMLQ and now PPP and PMLQ are united so less chance for PTI here!

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zonaira
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08/01/2012 9:29 AM  
guys keep adding information on this post...very useful thread...anyone has idea about peshawar's seats

zaheer244
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08/01/2012 10:54 AM  
anyone from sialkot. please shed some light on sialkot's NA areas. i think they are from 110 to 114. thanks, esepcialy area which covers pasroor.
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