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Lethargist
Posts:7
Insaf Member
 | | 23/12/2011 1:55 AM |
| Shehzad roy said in his song, Nake woh hai jisse moka nahin mila.
People who are joining Tehreek e Insaaf are rich they are opportunist and they will make Imran khan like them. Like Yesterday, Imran went to Multan on Jahangir Tareen Private Plane. How Imran Khan can refuse anything to Tareen in future if he will start taking benefit from Jahangir tareen now?It seems like Imran is also opportunist, coz he did not have this facility in the past but now he has and he should be.
Imran Khan always give examples from Nabi Akram S.A.W life. But he should adapt their like style as well.
Hazrat Umar bin Abdul aziz was very rich person but when he came into power he changed his life style and adapted very simplistic life style even did want to use lamp which was used to run with Govt money for his personal work.
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| Zohaibkhan
Posts:1136
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 2:19 AM |
| | Chal nikal! | | | |
| fiazpk
Posts:505
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 3:34 AM |
| O bhai,
Lethargist
allah ka nam lo, aur aate hoe, pahla post to acha kar lo, salam duaa kar lo, hello, hi kar lo.
Tumhein ya kisi ko kya masla he agar party members ek dosre ko koi sholat de rahe hain.
party le liye,
Imran ne us se jahaz le ke apne bachun ko mari aur kaghan ki ser to naheen karvai, dimagh to theek karo.
Imran khan to hamesha logun se ja ke apni movement ke lye peise leta he.
Aur is mein kya masla he. Us ke pas to lot ka peisa naheen he.Log dete hain, ab jangeer tareen kuch de ga, party ke lye, to he is welcome.
tum masla batao, koi bat batao,
kya imran ne jahangeer tareen se peise lye aur us ke lye koi gher qanono kam kya, phir bat karo.
Kya us se peise le ke mulk ke khiaf koi kam kya.
Yeh ameer log agar party ke lye peise de ge, saholat de ge, transport de ge, to they are welcome,
ham to khod request kar rahe hain,
keh, party ke lye, peisun ki zarorat he, transport ki zarorat he, har cheez ki zaroorta he, log sab de rahe hain, isi tara party chal rahi he.
aap ko kya masla he. | |
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| ammarhkhan
Posts:62
Insaf Tiger
| | 23/12/2011 3:53 AM |
| | @zohaibkhan: yeh kia bongon waala attitude hai? in terms of logic, he has a point; even though i personally believe it shouldn't/wouldn't be an issue. But you have no right to snub him like that | | | |
| umairkk
Posts:545
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 4:17 AM |
| | "Imran Khan is an opportunist" is a very assertive statement. But, yes. IK should not rely on members' wealth for party campaigns. What will be the value of parliamentary board if it continues? Can parliamentary board reject Jahangir Tareen's application for party ticket even with a valid reason? By Jehangir Tareen, I mean any politician who is heavily investing in the party. | |
Knowledge speaks but wisdom listens | |
| fiazpk
Posts:505
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 4:41 AM |
| agar party members invest naheen karein ge to bi to dosre log eitraz karein ge,
keh aap member bi hain, ameer bi hain, kuch apni jeib se bi kharcha karo, phir avaam aur khavas bi fund rais karein ge,
agar koi party ke andar kuch peise de ga to use mana kar jai, aur baqi log bi to eitraz karein ge,
har kisi ko apni hasiyat ke mutabiq party ke liye funding karni chahye, maksad pakistan hona chahiye, koi zati faida naheen hona chahye | |
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Look at your goals daily.Set and celebrate milestones.Do what you love and do it often.
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| Zohaibkhan
Posts:1136
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 4:51 AM |
| | LOL, what a logic!
If your political party is an institution it won't be effected by those who make donations. PTI has a herd of sheeple who gets swayed by any propaganda by anyone. And I have every right to snub anyone who I think is spreading false propaganda against PTI. | | | |
| farazkhattak
Posts:83
Insaf Tiger
| | 23/12/2011 5:09 AM |
| @Lethargist WELCOME>>>>>>
You said nothing which need a reply
But before saying anything negative...observe and wait 100 times...but if you see zardaris and shareefs from a spyglass dont see pti through microscope.. | |
!!! GREAT PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS MISUNDERSTOOD !!! | |
| sohailK
Posts:172
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 5:16 AM |
| Guys take a chill pill
It just took a flight in tareen's privite jet for our chairman to convince him to resign from his NA seat, the way how I look at it, this journey resulted in a positive outcome in the form of tareen now resigning which he previously wasn't.
@lethargist , u seem to be new to this forum but believe me, we are quite an open party and u will find on this forum that even the very old insafians criticize the party leadership for any decisions/actions they don't agree with, this is a culture supported mainly by our chairman who does not see himself as a sacred cow or some badshah salamat, and we are damn proud of it.
May Allah protect IK's life, his vision, our party and as a result of this, our great country | | | |
| [email protected]
Posts:56
Insaf Tiger
| | 23/12/2011 5:21 AM |
| | there always need fund to run a party.can you contribute hug money to run the affairs of party if not than calm down and appreciate others who give donation to party. | | | |
| umairkk
Posts:545
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 5:29 AM |
| | U r right. Party donations and funding is different. But when you travel on private plane instead of other far more cheapest modes of transportation available, then you have to justify a lot of things. I hope u r getting my point. | |
Knowledge speaks but wisdom listens | |
| Leader.
Posts:2122
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 23/12/2011 6:35 AM |
| Posted By Lethargist on 23/12/2011 1:55 AM
Shehzad roy said in his song, Nake woh hai jisse moka nahin mila.
People who are joining Tehreek e Insaaf are rich they are opportunist and they will make Imran khan like them. Like Yesterday, Imran went to Multan on Jahangir Tareen Private Plane. How Imran Khan can refuse anything to Tareen in future if he will start taking benefit from Jahangir tareen now?It seems like Imran is also opportunist, coz he did not have this facility in the past but now he has and he should be.
Imran Khan always give examples from Nabi Akram S.A.W life. But he should adapt their like style as well.
Hazrat Umar bin Abdul aziz was very rich person but when he came into power he changed his life style and adapted very simplistic life style even did want to use lamp which was used to run with Govt money for his personal work.
If travelling on someone else's private jet on someone else's request is such a crime then what do you say about people like Nawaz Shareef etc who own many private jets bought with the money stolen from poor Pakistanies. | |
My comments are my personal views and make no representation of party policies. | |
| maliksaab
Posts:1798
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 23/12/2011 7:34 AM |
| Complete rubbish.
Imran Kh. has more than enough money to OWN a private jet, yet he travels on his vehicle to three different far away locations for press conferences the same day. Comprende?
I will back Zohaibkhan, if your belief is so rickety then you need to get down to some soul (and fact) searching. | |
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| umairkk
Posts:545
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 8:28 AM |
| Two wrongs don't make a right
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| Lethargist
Posts:7
Insaf Member
| | 23/12/2011 8:39 AM |
| There are three types of criticism
1- Costructive
2- To criticize at any cost without using mind whether other person is good
3- Destructive
I did not say anything bad in my post,
Nabi Akram S.A.W said, christian cannot say anything against to his father/pop/bishop, they believe whatever any thing said by father/POP/etc. Quran says, "We have rewarded wisdom and knowledge to my creature (man/woman)"
There are two types of idol worship
1- To make an idol and then start worshipping that idol
2- To make an idol in your innerself then start worshipping
Second type of idol worshop is also called personality worship.
Both kind of idol worship are haraam (Not permissible).
Majority of the Pakistanis are doing 2nd type of worshipping.
I like Imran khan, I do appreciate him and InshAllah vote him as well. But I cant worship him. If I like him, then I will point out those things which can damage his personality or vision.
As Imran khan says, If someone will not come onto his or his party vision then that person should quit himself.
If Imran khan will start taking benefit from other party member then he will not be able to refuse anything and shall be black mailed by them.
If I accept the theory that Tareen is a party member and Imran can use anything then this environment within the party can create gap between other party member.
Like I invest money on someone then I will also like to have influence on party decisions.
If I would like that someone should start smoking then my first priority to give him free cigarettes , after sometimes, when I would see that that guy cant live without cigarettes then will stop giving him cigarettes. Then that guy must buy cigarettes.
In simple words, Imran should promote better culture within the party he is like a father of the party who should always lead by examples.
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| saifi
Posts:360
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 9:10 AM |
| Few of us needs to get a grip!!!
@Lethargist and others supporting this point
So you are suggesting that it is ok if i use my car and petrol from my own pocket for the party but its not good to use plane if one of us have one??
Please let us know which model of the car IK gets' into and which not if he has to travel again with someone from the party.
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| saifi
Posts:360
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 9:22 AM |
| Posted By umairkk on 23/12/2011 5:29 AM
U r right. Party donations and funding is different. But when you travel on private plane instead of other far more cheapest modes of transportation available, then you have to justify a lot of things. I hope u r getting my point.
What is the difference in party funding and travel on private jet ??
What if this is Jahangir Tareen's way of giving party funding ??
Travel from here and there quick and swift when no other means could get you there and back to save time!!
IK has shown the courage to implement merit which is what he will do when times comes to reward election tickets
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| saif saif
Posts:250
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 11:04 AM |
| | The member who has started this RUBBISH its his 2nd post and we can imagine how he would be useful for IK.I am sure who people are joining PTI nowadays will be better than this new member. | |
safdar | |
| saif saif
Posts:250
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 11:15 AM |
| | Yes IK would have used Billor,s train and might be reached Karachi at 25th of December of 2013. | |
safdar | |
| umairkk
Posts:545
Insaf Shaheen
| | 23/12/2011 12:53 PM |
| | Is there any room for debate or positive criticism on this forum? Or this forum is just for worshiping Imran Khan? You may not agree with someone but he should not be attacked personally. Yes...the originator was too harsh but he had the argument. Cross argument is that it is necessary or atleast very useful to travel on a private plane on party funds because train or regular plane are not fast enough for a busy person like chairman or these modes are not upto his standard. Please correct me if I am wrong | |
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