hmcheema Posts:1398

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wbuttar Posts:1753


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 | | 09/03/2010 11:46 PM |
| Accoding to Dunya News, a bogus polling station is identified in NA-123.
Hamid Meraj and Salman Butt jointly speak to media.
According to them some presiding officers are given Rs.500,000/- cash each to purchase votes on the spot.
They also shown an order of DCO Lahore that on specific polling stations Presiding Officers will not leave till further orders.
On some polling stations copies are without seral numbers. | | God help those, who help themselves.
"Badlo Bure Nizam Ko, Vote Do Imran Ko" | |
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wbuttar Posts:1753


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 | | 10/03/2010 12:33 AM |
| | PTI Candidate casted his vote, and said that voters are being harrassed but he will continue his fight. | | God help those, who help themselves.
"Badlo Bure Nizam Ko, Vote Do Imran Ko" | |
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noman Posts:236


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 | | 10/03/2010 12:34 AM |
| Well well welll ..Where the hell is our so called independent election commission and other media channel's ????? Please update more about this issue if u have any .. Thanks ... | | اب کے گر زلزلے آئے تو قیامت ہو گی میرے دلگیر،مرے درد کے مارے لوگو کسی غاصب،کسی ظالم،کسی قاتل کے لیے خود کو تقسیم نہ کرنا میرے سارے لوگو... احمد فراز | |
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wbuttar Posts:1753


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 | | 10/03/2010 12:49 AM |
| | PML-N candidate predicted that Hafiz Salman Butt will announce boycott of elections in two hours. | | God help those, who help themselves.
"Badlo Bure Nizam Ko, Vote Do Imran Ko" | |
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NADIR Posts:46

 Insaf Activist
 | | 10/03/2010 12:49 AM |
| NA123 main agar rigging ho rahe hi.wo to hone wali te.wo hum rok nahi sakte.Q k Hun ki Panjab main Hokumat hi.police b hum hi sab kuch hun ki hi. Hum sirf Muqabila karna chahiye.hume kam as kam 2nd positon lene chahiye.agar hum ne 2nd positon bi le to.hum samje gay k hum jeet gaye hi. Inshallah 2nd position hame PTI ki hi aye ge.
"Badlo Bure Nizam Ko, Vote Do Imran Ko" | | | |
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top_fan Posts:12

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 | | 10/03/2010 12:54 AM |
| @wbuttar.....
Salman butt is old politician and can do so to preserve himself from a tag of defeat... If he does so, it will be so good for PTI as we can exploit his bycott and all anti-N vote will go to PTI later on.
Then, in record books that figure will be noticed with the name of PTI. It will also give our party a strong point that we are not quitters.
Ask salman butt to do this  | | | |
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Leader. Posts:1637


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 | | 10/03/2010 1:03 AM |
| | If our workers can collect proofs and make some videos, I think Imran Khan should take this to court to expose N league and it will help SC to order for an independant election commission. | | | |
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Andil Posts:238

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 | | 10/03/2010 1:30 AM |
| | There are many videos available of the MQM rigging in Karachi in 2008 elections on youtube. People stamping up to 10 ballots at a time of those people who had not shown up. Nobody took action on this. Yes you are right, the Chief Justice has to order an independant Election Commission. If CJ can order the NAB chariman to be sacked (liek he did recently), he can surely order Election Commission to be replaced and revamped. | | | |
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itsfarhan Posts:238


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 | | 10/03/2010 1:40 AM |
| | Turn out is low and PTI shuld try hard to bring max voters out. | | | |
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noman Posts:236


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 | | 10/03/2010 1:54 AM |
| given below article was published on 9th of march and JI said about ghost polling station ...ghost stations are not mentioned in the polling scheme but around 20,000 votes are likely to be polled on these stations.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/national/na123-voters-close-to-finding-an-mna,-finally-930 | | اب کے گر زلزلے آئے تو قیامت ہو گی میرے دلگیر،مرے درد کے مارے لوگو کسی غاصب،کسی ظالم،کسی قاتل کے لیے خود کو تقسیم نہ کرنا میرے سارے لوگو... احمد فراز | |
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wbuttar Posts:1753


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 | | 10/03/2010 1:58 AM |
| | Histrocially turn out in this constituency remained around 25-30% and I am not expecting more than that. | | God help those, who help themselves.
"Badlo Bure Nizam Ko, Vote Do Imran Ko" | |
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sufghan Posts:568

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 | | 10/03/2010 3:24 AM |
| Few CEC members just visited 60 polling stations in NA123 and from what I have analysed and heard i can tell you here since none of you have mentioned it.
There are approximately 280 odd polling stations. PML N and Punjab Govt Machinery has played a very shrewd game in rigging yet another election. Since they are past masters of rigging. In each polling station polling agents/presiding officers have stolen/hidden voters list of 150 people. So PTI voters once they go into polling stations most of them cant find their name and after 3pm these polling agents will cast votes in favour of PML N on those voters list.if you multiply 150 into 287 you get the figue of 45000. So that is what PML N has done, they have manipulated voters list by deliberately hiding it from potential PTI/JI supporters. That is why Independent Election Commission is necessary. Shame on PML N and Punjab govt machinery. | | | |
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tayyab1796 Posts:50

 Insaf Tiger
 | | 10/03/2010 3:36 AM |
| | This is the filthy democracy of Pakistan outright rigging by Nawaz's gundas many PTI voters don't find their names on the voter lists ... This is such a shame we need a militia force as well I think ... 'Jaen to jaen kahan' courts need evidence , the best court in the world cannot do justice if here is no evidence. | | | |
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wbuttar Posts:1753


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 | | 10/03/2010 3:57 AM |
| Secretary Election Commission just said that their staff is quite discouraged with low turnout.
Lets see what happended at the end of the day. I tend to agree with Sufghan that they will surely manipulate this election in their favor. | | God help those, who help themselves.
"Badlo Bure Nizam Ko, Vote Do Imran Ko" | |
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Evergreen Posts:376

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 | | 10/03/2010 4:45 AM |
| According to City42:
Turn out is around 12%. Only govt. schools were closed and not the market or offices. Therefore, turn out is very low.
Hamid Miraj and Salman Butt accusing for rigging. While PMLN is saying that their opponents are losing. | | | |
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Evergreen Posts:376

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 | | 10/03/2010 4:54 AM |
| To watch live city42
http://www.city42.tv/
By the way, city42 kiss ka channel hai??? They are bashing every one.....apart from PPP. kahien yeh Governer ya District Nazim Amir ka to koi link nai iss channel say?? | | | |
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insafkiawaz Posts:769

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 | | 10/03/2010 4:55 AM |
| atlast talked with 4-5 PTI activist in the area , 2 of them performing duty on polling station
summary
1) voting list issue was at every polling station, people do not find their names in the list for one reason or other..i have talked with one PTI activist and he told me that we have lists from 2007 and the lists they have and lists which Presiding officers have are different.. i personally cant figure out this issue..what i can imagine that as we have boycotted the 2008 elections so at that time contesting parties registered their voters and our voters were not registered (my personal opinion) and that PTI activist agreed with me in the end
2) Low turn out 25 % or so and at certain polling station N people trying to cast votes of the missing voters with the help of Presiding officers (not at all but at certain polling stations) , so N is using this low turn out in their favour
3) at some polling stations yes PTI has got good votes, i talked with a guy who was in polling station of Wapda town and he was confident that he himself carried people with him from their houses to vote for PTI and he was expecting good result atleast at his polling station...people also told that in some polling stations in shad bagh good number of votes are casted for PTI
4) PTI activist are still trying to get voters out of the houses to cast their votes in last hour, they also told that we brought voters to polling stations but who will vote for u who not, they cant tell , coz in the end it is the voter who decide to whom he/she casts vote..so they cant predict anything about number of votes casts in favour of PTI..on the other hand it is also possible that some voters go to N camp to get their voter Id and then casted vote for PTI or JI..you cant read heart and mind of voter...
i have written all these lines based on my 1 hour telephonic talk with different people who were at polling stations or bringing voters to polling stations in UC37 and 38..
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hmcheema Posts:1398

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 | | 10/03/2010 5:08 AM |
| @insafkiawaz
Your point #1 is what i discussed after NA55 elections. Indeed due to the boycott of 2008 elections, our voters are not registered in the lists and in by-elections the lists are not updated. Its only done for general elections.
To solve this issue, one has to go personally to election commission and get registered but this i think has not been done. | | | |
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wbuttar Posts:1753


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 | | 10/03/2010 5:20 AM |
| I have some reservations about voters lists. The point is not our voters are not registered. It is understood only those people are coming to casts votes who have their registered votes and casted their votes in previous elections. The problem is difference in voters list. If lists of our polling staff differ with lists of election commission staff, then the problem arise. How it happened?
surely there is something wrong. | | God help those, who help themselves.
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