Ghazan
Posts:5
Insaf Member
 | | 28/09/2008 5:48 PM |
| | Guys we need to have a way of getting our messages to Imran. I was at the KCL event in London yesterday. If any of us have suggestions we want to share with Imran or want to share some information with him, there should be a way for us to do so.
I think we will also attract a lot of new members if word spreads that Imran does reply to people and members who approacg him via email. Can someone please pass this message of mine to him. I strongly believe that Imran should be accessible to all his party members as opposed to just the senior party members | | | |
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drmkhan
Posts:191
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/09/2008 5:56 PM |
| | i completely agree, but i do not beleive it will happen because of lack of interest from the top executives. I wonder if IK actually knows about the members demand. | | | |
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navedrana
Posts:151
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/09/2008 6:50 PM |
| | I also agree - It will be much encouraging for the members | | | |
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fair_sajju130
Posts:431
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/09/2008 8:31 PM |
| i am agreed with all you guys, this is the way to deliver the justice among the members , and its a part of equality,
senior need to play a vital role .
please carry on , this must be another movement .
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lcchs
Posts:109
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/09/2008 9:03 PM |
| | This is very good idea but I considering the fact he is very busy person, I dont think he will be able to respond to anyone but I am sure we can send our message across to him via local coordinators if they agreed. | | | |
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m_junaid
Posts:254
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/09/2008 9:31 PM |
| This issue of IK's interaction with members has been discussed numerous times on this site, you guys should search for it where Ahsan has provided us feedback from higher-ups on this topic.
Sometimes, if any effective ideas are proposed here, those do get conveyed to higher-ups by Ahsan or others. | | | |
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navedrana
Posts:151
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/09/2008 9:55 PM |
| | I can tell you direct interaction of some sort of the worker with his Leader wil bear great fruit.. | | | |
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drmkhan
Posts:191
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/09/2008 11:05 PM |
| | i have suggested before that we sholud have a pole among the members regarding this issue. i am not saying that we should send him Email everyday. what we need is an interaction once every month so he can use the power of more than 10,000 members.I know for sure we have very talented and resourceful members. The executives sholud take this request seriously and work with membersto resolve this isuues. | | | |
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absan
Posts:15
Insaf Member
| | 29/09/2008 12:57 AM |
| | 1) I am sure if Imran Khan’s email address gets published here, people will start sending hundreds of email to him daily and he wont be able to read those all!
2) Why not “DO” something “practical” for PTI and then request the party higher ups to let us meet Imran Khan a) lets arrange a jalsa in the city where we live where at least 5000 people promise to come and then invite Khan sb there? b) lets collect funds for sasta tandoor and then ask party higher ups ‘we have to present the check of 50000 Rs to Imran Khan’ c) why not make 1000 members of PTI in our area and then tell party higher ups ‘I want to bring a delegation of 100 people from my area to meet Imran Khan, please allow me his 30 minutes’. Feasible?
Point is: “Practical actions” matter, ‘suggestions’ very little.
3) If there is something that is “terribly important”, you can convey it to Imran Khan through his political secretary, Mr Saifullah Niazi at niazi73 AT hotmail DOT com | | | |
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The insider
Posts:410
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| | 29/09/2008 2:34 AM |
| | Absan !
What if saifullah niazi doesnt like some part of the "terribly important " matter , and he wants to cut it through some "censorship" , where do we go then ?? :) :) | | | |
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frazbama
Posts:499
Insaf Shaheen
| | 29/09/2008 2:46 AM |
| Chairman Khan says himself 'I don't know anything about computers.'
So I guess we are stuck with his side-kicks. I am sure Saifullah Niazi would be very helpful if we showed him revolutionary ways of increasing PTI's presence on the national scene. He would be overjoyed and chase us in any way he could and try to figure out how he could play an important role in the revolution. | | | |
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ahsan
Posts:993
Insaf Shaheen
| | 29/09/2008 3:12 AM |
| [quote]Posted By The insider on 29/09/2008 2:34 AM
Absan !
What if saifullah niazi doesnt like some part of the "terribly important " matter , and he wants to cut it through some "censorship" , where do we go then ?? :) :)
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Saif is not the only point of contact for that matter. Dr. Arif Alvi can also help in case the matter is actually "terribly important".
Btw I personally have a suggestion for Khan sahab. He should give away his powers to solve any problems inside the party and a separate team should be formed for the purpose. He should not be able to induct or remove anyone, he should not be able to accept any resignations. He will only be a face of PTI for outside world. The party should learn to grow and resolve its problem without IK. Right now whenever there is a problem, everyone runs (or wants to run) to the Chairman. And Chairman is involved in matters like why this person was not allowed on the stage. | | | |
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magiclamp
Posts:348
Insaf Shaheen
| | 29/09/2008 3:21 AM |
| Ahsan,
Your words are thoughts of every sincere PTI member who want to see the same happening. IK must learn to "delegate" jobs. He can not do every task by himself. Give party a chance, I'm sure they are much capable than what he expects. | | | |
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googly
Posts:88
Insaf Tiger
| | 29/09/2008 4:08 AM |
| I agree completely with Ahsan. The party's CEC should delegate powers to party members and IK should be consulted only on issues relating to his position as chairman.
BTW, what happened to elections within the party? Why is IK chairman since the party's inception over 10 years ago? Will IK be chairman of the party for life? | | | |
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frazbama
Posts:499
Insaf Shaheen
| | 29/09/2008 4:47 AM |
| Ahsan:
It's a good suggestion however, you forget a very important component. Without a democratic set up, these 'problem solving' bodies will always remain at the mercy of a select few.
Every district should be self-sustaining and no one person should be funding more than 20% of a district's budget. Furthermore, these funds should raised locally and not from abroad.
This is the only reason why all the well established bodies like the lawyers or traders associations are so successful. They hold regular elections and everyone contributes and no one monopolizes. Despite the fact that there is intense internal politics, these bodies remain vibrant, resolve issues across various affiliations and are self-sustaining. And of course, there is no one person they look to for continuing to achieve their goals. It is the process and institution that matters and not the individual.
While Mian Mehmood ur Rashid is good for achieving results in Lahore and Chairman Khan good for achieving results for PTI, in the long term the solution is for the party to grow beyond these individuals. | | | |
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The insider
Posts:410
Insaf Shaheen
| | 29/09/2008 4:49 AM |
| Ahsan
That is an important and good suggestion you have made , But lets ask our friend saif if he agrees to it?
:) | | | |
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Ghazan
Posts:5
Insaf Member
| | 29/09/2008 5:29 AM |
| | Guys, my father works for the PPP, and believe me, before Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto died, she would regularly reply to his emails.
If she could do that with a much bigger party, then I personally believe Imran Khan should also be able to reply our emails, even if selectively.
Furthermore, I believe Imran Khan should dedicate one hour a day to reply our emails or answer our telephone calls. I agree that not every email deserves a reply and that a lot of people will email him with petty issues, but these emails should of course be ignored. He needs to cash in on people who like him and convert these people into real votes. If a poor man from a village gets to speak to Imran on the phone, and Imran says 'mulk ko aur PTI ko aap ki vote ki zaroorat hai' it will be much harder for this person to not vote for Imran. Imran's voice will have an impact on him and he will feel connected to PTI's leadership.
I think if he read emails sent to him, he would be able to identify people with good ideas and draw them towards the party. For example if Mr X sent him some good ideas on how he can appeal to the masses in Pakistan maybe Imran could use these ideas in his speeches. It is imperative for Imran to establish some form of direct contact with his supporters. | | | |
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highlander
Posts:297
Insaf Shaheen
| | 29/09/2008 7:08 AM |
| Posted By Ghazan on 28/09/2008 5:48 PM
Guys we need to have a way of getting our messages to Imran. I was at the KCL event in London yesterday. If any of us have suggestions we want to share with Imran or want to share some information with him, there should be a way for us to do so.
I think we will also attract a lot of new members if word spreads that Imran does reply to people and members who approacg him via email. Can someone please pass this message of mine to him. I strongly believe that Imran should be accessible to all his party members as opposed to just the senior party members
Admin has this speech prepared for every such occasion, mainly it has three points :
No.1. It is their right to think highly of themselves and think of people who post online as people who have nothing to do..
No.2.IK is above all these and lives somewhere on the clouds where only the admin can access him. It is right to assume everyone posting on this site do not have access to IK and have never met him in person
No.3.And every attempt to suggest something must be dealt with Iron hands.
No.3. What have you done for the PTI blah blah | | | |
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ahsan
Posts:993
Insaf Shaheen
| | 29/09/2008 9:09 AM |
| 051-2270744
This is the number of Central Secretariat. Tahir is the name of Imran Khan's PA, anyone who wants to meet Imran Khan can speak to him.
[email protected] is the email address of Imran Khan's political secretary.
[email protected] is the email address of Dr. Arif Alvi, Secretary General of PTI.
Admins of this website have no jurisdiction over who is meeting with Imran Khan.
They would also love to have Imran Khan (repeatedly said) on the website they have built themselves. However Fraz has already quoted the chairman on this issue.
He has a laptop, as well as a Blackberry but simply does not use them.
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Insider,
Lets not be 'that' scared of Saif. :)
Specially those who are practically working for the party shouldn't really be scared.
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Fraz,
It would be ideal if every district could fund raise locally. But considering the politics of Pakistan where theres no guarantee of a steady flow of donations to a political party, I think most of the energies of the local chapters would be spent in fund raising.
In my opinion the local chapter should get the support for following from the center:
- Office
- One paid office boy (who can write and fax press releases)
- Telephone, Internet and Fax
Rest of the expanses (flyers, posters, membership camps, transport, small events, food for meetings etc) should be responsibility of local chapter. The three things which I marked Center's responsibility requires constant funding. For rest of the things you can fund raise when you need them. This way we could ensure that if at some stage the body couldn't raise enough funds, it doesnt die down because of that.
Regarding lawyers, dont they get funding from government as well?
Traders bodies are successful because usually most of them participating in politics are quite well off in term of finances.
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balo
Posts:35
Insaf Activist
| | 29/09/2008 9:19 AM |
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