baaz
Posts:637
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
 | | 27/06/2007 3:02 PM |
| AoA,
I think it is important to know all the methods, our enemies are using.
Just a small example of what their present leaders of now have been doing in the past (remember to read all 4 pages, if not all three articles):
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IF27Ak01.html
And for me, there is no doubt, that such rouge tactics are also being applied within Pakistan... anybody got some facts or information about such stuff? | | | |
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synthkid
Posts:488
Insaf Shaheen
Insaf Media Unit
| | 27/06/2007 8:33 PM |
| Good stuff.
Also check out BBC's documentary "POWER OF NIGHTMARES" if you guys havent seen it. Its an eye opener.
http://video.google.com/url?
docid=881321004838285177&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=power%2Bof%2B
nightmares&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2
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http://video.google.com/url?docid=4602171665328041876
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http://video.google.com/url?docid=4729189253956590972&
esrc=sr3&ev=v&q=power%2Bof%2Bnightmares&srcurl=http%
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Ita three part documentary and trust me once you finish watching it, you'll feel like you just woke up.
BAAZ ::: Changed the urls. | | | |
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baaz
Posts:637
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 28/06/2007 12:50 PM |
| Yaar, Power of Nightmares is nothing - have a look on these movies:
Loose Change
The war against third world (also called What I found out about US foreign policy)
Terrorstorm (really important one - must see)
you can see them all on video google.
There are also several sites with declassified US documents... | | | |
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synthkid
Posts:488
Insaf Shaheen
Insaf Media Unit
| | 28/06/2007 1:44 PM |
| ive seen loose change.. thats like a blockbuster  . Ive have a look at the rest of two tonite. Someone in pakistan should make an effort and produce something | | | |
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baaz
Posts:637
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 28/06/2007 1:59 PM |
| | There also a good one about "Afghan Massacre" made by daring people with hidden cams. It is about all the people executed wildly by C I A. | | | |
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Noor
Posts:302
Insaf Shaheen
| | 28/06/2007 2:18 PM |
| | those who support indep media must watch LINK TV and FSTV On Dish Network you will be surprised with the kind of investigative journalism on war, politics and current affairs. Programs you will never see on mainstream media. The reportins is honest and mind boggling. In USA Dish Net work carry these channels. I have watched loose change there only. Ammy Goodmen's Democrasy Now is a hit. | | | |
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synthkid
Posts:488
Insaf Shaheen
Insaf Media Unit
| | 28/06/2007 2:36 PM |
| SO my friends the question is ....
We are all pakistanis, looking at these videos, documents --- see a lot of things out of order. A lot of unanswered questions. A lot of reservations towards west.
OUr leaders SHOULD reflect what the common public feels and im sure they feel the same way, corrupt hain .. pagal to nahi hain .
And what about all the muslims all around the world who must be thinkin exactly like us. What about their leaders ....
Question is ...
Howcome no one dares to spell it out to bush or blair. like look at loose change or power of nightmares and EXPLAIN YOURSELVES. As it all seems true. And they SHOULD prove it wrong if they want us to be their allies.
But no one asks and no one responds and everything gets labelled as a conspiracy theory.
I'll tell you why ....
ONe of the minor sign of end times is that a person will be appointed as a king of a nation and we will be SO cruel, nobody will have courage to tell him how cruel he is..
Itna zalim ho ga ke koi usay keh bhi nahi sakay ga ke tum zalim ho.
So would you call this a Prophecy coming true .. or just a co-incidence ?? | | | |
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baaz
Posts:637
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 28/06/2007 3:20 PM |
| | Personally, I think those cruel times have to come yet. In any way...we cannot accept it as signs of end times and blame on the cruel leaders. | | | |
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baaz
Posts:637
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 05/07/2007 11:28 AM |
| Watch
"Martial Law 911 : Rise of the police state"...then follow the chain...and sources given. You will really wake up! Is the "one-eye" just a co-incidence or what? DAJJAL!!!?? |
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baaz
Posts:637
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 05/07/2007 12:06 PM |
| Yaar synthkid, would you please edit your post and halfen the links...its destroying the frames.
"The Party seeks power entirely for its for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness; only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that, We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes a revolution in order to establish a dictatorship." 1984 by George Orwell. | | | |
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safee
Posts:601
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
Newsletter Liaison
| | 27/07/2007 4:22 AM |
| Yaeeeeeeeeeeeeeks!
Was'nt the result of power == Money??
Power for the sake of power? What does that mean?? | |
"Afraad Keh hathon main hey Akwam kee taqdeer,
Har fard hey millat keh mukadar ka sitara.."
-Allama Muhammad Iqbal | |
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baaz
Posts:637
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 27/07/2007 6:50 AM |
| Nice to see you again bro safee.
Power for the sake of power means that you are power hungry. You are obsessed with power and want to control others... Money is just a side thing, but you want "control"/"domination" ??!
Pure power means, you mould the society and you decide what to do. You are the one who decide the rythm and what tune other should dance after.
What do you think?! | | | |
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safee
Posts:601
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
Newsletter Liaison
| | 27/07/2007 11:08 AM |
| Thanks baaz!
I can understand how an individual can take up this ideology...but if a group does it, doesnot sound logical..I mean they would first struggle in themselves to control each other..
No? | |
"Afraad Keh hathon main hey Akwam kee taqdeer,
Har fard hey millat keh mukadar ka sitara.."
-Allama Muhammad Iqbal | |
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baaz
Posts:637
Insaf Shaheen
Moderator
| | 27/07/2007 11:25 AM |
| Actually,
when the group is highly organized and everyone has level of authority - listening to some of these fools make you realize how "sick" they in fact are.
There would only be a fight in a real democratic environment, but in a hierarchical structure, where people are restricted to their own business make it possible. | | | |
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