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Saturday, March 14, 2009

In defense of Imran Khan: Who is a Liberal?
By khawar Hassan | 2032 Views | 35 Comments |

“If you wish to converse with me”, Voltaire said, “Define your terms”. Pakistan is a funny country where we excel at changing the meaning of the words to use them for our own benefit. Business is now the equivalent of fraud and scams. Intelligence is the ability to lie and cheat. Integrity and honesty are equivalent to naivety and foolishness. Politics is just another name for raw, crude and naked opportunism.

As a result we have politicians claiming religion and espousing policies totally anathema to it and liberals who don’t know what liberalism means. First of all it is a matter of context, the term liberal in a university setting could mean different than when used in a talk show or political rally.

Mr. Najam Sethi has taken a swipe at Imran Khan for lambasting the “liberals” in his speech at the Rawalpindi Bar on March 7th. Mr. Sethi forgot to mention that Imran Khan also lambasted Maulana Fazal ur Rehman by name, and other politicians who pedal religion in general. Leaving that aside for a moment, lets delve into who is a liberal and what it means to be a liberal.

A liberal, according to Alan Wolfe, is some one who stands for personal freedom, rule of law, free but responsible markets, mutual toleration and equal concern for all. Even the most disgruntled critics of Imran Khan have to agree that he and his party, PTI, are most law abiding, peaceful and not having any goon squads. He has shown equal concern for all, including the missing persons, abused women and minorities.

Please some one explain how can any one call themselves liberal when they are rooting for killing “terrorists of Lal Masjid” without affording them due process of law? How can one call themselves liberal and support indiscriminate aerial bombing against one’s own countrymen? No matter what their crimes, they all deserve their day at the court to defend themselves. A state cannot react to vigilante squads by engaging in vigilante behavior itself. Rule of law must be upheld, and that is what Imran Khan has supported.

Please some one further explain that how can anyone call themselves liberal while supporting the most rightwing conservative policies of the Bush neocons? The same policies and wars that were opposed by true liberals in all Western countries. What would you call George Calloway, Imran Khans’ biggest supporter in UK? Or Barak Obama?

Mr. Sethi, I think a rethink is on. Please do not equate supporting US policies with liberalism. Just like Islam is being misused by the Al-Qaida and their ilk for their purposes, Liberalism is being misused by the Maghrebzadehs.

I can understand your and other journalist’s confusion regarding Imran Khan. He cannot be labeled and pigeon holed because he is his own man. He ponders over an issue and takes a stand based on what he thinks is right. It might be right of center some time and left of center at other times. It might be politically incorrect at the time as well.

The reason that Imran Khan is still popular with the liberals is because they recognize that he is a true liberal at heart. Like Mohammad Ali Jinnah, whose politics was principle based and issue oriented. Like Allama Iqbal, whose interpretation of Islam earned him fatwa of kufr. That is why he is popular with liberals like me because his politics is based on right and wrong, not right and left.

By: Khawar Shamsul Hassan

Orlando, Florida, USA

PTI Coordinator.

Comments

By Irfan Shah @ Sunday, March 15, 2009 1:12 AM | (irfanshah)

Great insight Khawar Sahib.
Thankyou very much for writing something which was really needed.
I do think that there may not be as many liberals believing in Imran Khan as we like to assume there are. But I am sure with articles such as this one, it would remove some of the misconceptions about Imran Khan.
I would suggest you to get the article in major newspapers as well.

@ Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:00 AM | ()

Comments from the following blog entry: http://mysticsmuses.wordpress.com/2009/03/14/imran-khan-liberal-or-taleban/

By Irfan Shah @ Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:13 AM | (irfanshah)

Btw, I have published your piece on my blog.
Link: http://cli.gs/HJrRmP

By safdar @ Monday, March 16, 2009 11:07 AM | (sescohk)

http://www.ourbeacon.com/cgi-bin/bbs60x/webbbs_config.pl/page/1/md/read/id/30803

By Sikandar Bilal Khattak @ Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:10 AM | (Sikandar Bilal Khattak)

such replied to be posted on real platform. here mostly Insafian comes some other forums . :O

By Paki @ Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:06 AM | (Pakiza)

Mr Mullah Omer
one thing I can say is you need to know the fact.Imran voted for Amin Fahim when he was competing Fazal and Shaukat Aziz.
You seem to be either a lier or uneducated.

By Paki @ Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:09 AM | (Pakiza)

I have got a question for Mr Omer.
Quaid was laeding the party "Muslim League" but he did form his own party which would have been called "secular league" or why did not he change the name of the party?
Why Quaid said that Pakistan doesn't need any constitution as Quran is the constitution of Pakistan?
Mr Omer you have got your own opinion but what if you are uneducated?

By Moiz Masood @ Friday, March 20, 2009 2:06 AM | (distinctmoiz)

All of you MUST check this...
http://cyclewalabanda.blogspot.com/2007/09/pakistan-ka-matlab-kya-pakistan-jinnah.html

By Paki @ Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:59 PM | (Pakiza)

@Mulla Umer

Someone once asked Quaid e Azam what he thinks of the constitution of Pakistan.To which,Quaid said pakistan has got constitution in the form of Quran.That't why he never came up with any constitution and did not ask Liaqat Ali Khan and other leaders to come with man made constituion.
My question to you should be,why Quaid did not come up with any constitution?
Well,both Imran and PTI don't support Taliban at all.What we say is ,we are against war against terror as it has been drifting Pakistan and Afghanistan to civil war.Hence we are against the strategy being adopted to curb terrorism and secondly War against Terror is being fought on Americn terms.
Now my question to you should be,
when did Imran say that we support Taliban?hs Imran ever supported Taliban finacialy?To get the answer to this question,you had better watch 'JawabDeh' which was shown on Geo Tv in the last weak of Feb 2008.
Imran clearly says that Taliban did not server Islam and that clealy shows that we are against the kind of Islam adopted by taliban.
In fact the problem with you is,you are rather driven by anti Imran camp which is trying to portray him as Pro-Taliban which is based on lies and ignorance.

Sharia means Islam is the law of the land.Noone can deny the fact that man made laws are inadequate and don't fulfill the purpose.Islam promotes equality and justice.I just would narrate an incident which happened in Holy prophet life.
"Once Holy Prphet was sitting with one of his fellows and suddenly some jews were going to their graveyard for the funeral of a jew.When Holy prophet saw them he stood up in respect and his fellow asked him why you stood up for the funeral of a jew.Holy prophet replied that Islam teaches us to respect eveyone.
You defined Liberalism correctly but you failed to come up with any conviction that what makes PTI and Imran against liberalism.freedom of any person is one thing but law has to be supreme.If by Liberalism you mean that any one can commit sins and there should be no law for him then you had better first educate yourself.
We support personal liberty to the extent unless it affects someone else.Personal Liberty means for example you can get education of your choice and we support that.But we don't support: corruption one commits with his choice,drinking publicly and teasing women publicly etc.
This all needs to be defined and as I said Law has to be supreme.

By Ahsan Mansoor @ Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:21 PM | (ahsan)

Mullah Omar,

what exactly is your problem with Shariat? Yes we want to bring Shariat in this country which means a society based on justice, judicial, social and economic justice. Our whole manifesto is based on shariat. This is not a secular party so if you had problem with basic ideology of PTI, you shouldn't be here at the first place.

Answering your questions,

1- When did PTI organized a rally led by IK to condemn Talibans crime against humanity in Pakistan ? Please tell me place and date.
2- When did IK arrange a press conference, whose sole purpose was to condemn Talibans? Date and place please.
3- When did IK visit Fata and Swat to show solidarity with victims of Talibans there? Tell me date please.

Why would we protest against them? They are mere reactionaries to the government policies. IK has condemned them at a number of places (I can provide reference to video interviews), but why solely target them? They never were there before 2004 when government sent its forces to bomb its own people in return of getting salary from their masters in Washington. They are like mushrooms popping up on waste produced by the government. Clear the waste, reactionaries will die down themselves.

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P.S. You are also warned for trolling on this website with a fake ID. Either you update your profile to start looking like a real member, or you should unregister yourself. From your posts, it is quite obvious that you aren't really a member of PTI who believes in its ideology. FYI, this website is for members of PTI only who have signed the affidavit:

"I agree to join Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf having full confidence in its manifesto, and as a member of the party I will abide by its rules and constitution. I will support Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf by voting for its candidate or helping the party in other ways."

By Paki @ Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:45 PM | (Pakiza)

Let me start off with your ignorance about Islam;
I have never seen the word'Mulla' or even 'Maulvi" in Quran as they simply don't exist in Islam.Now question arises that why these words are being used.The answer is just common sense that these words were not being used in khilafat era and even in the era when Muslims were ruling this world:These words have come from west as part of their propaganda of 'divide and rule'.Ignorants like you started using these words and at the end what we got is internal drift in the society.This world revolves around two words'good and bad or right or wrong for that matter'.so called Mullas or Maulvis or any other Muslim whether he calls himslef 'liberal or whatever are either right and wrong.
Logically and religiously what I see is,I have seen socalled liberal being sometimes and Muallas being right at other places.Goods and bads are evrywhere,it is a well established fact.
socalled Mullas are right when it comes to saying prayers and observing fasting during Ramadan quite regualrly and they are wrong as far as their intolerance towards Non Muslims is concerned.so called liberals are wrong when it comes to obsenity and vulgarity .They seem to be right when it comes to tolerance in scoiety is concerned.
Hence to me ,human made terms like liberals,mullas,extermists are quite inadequate and don't make much sense.
The real prob with you is you use human made terms and consider them the final words.You had better consider Quran and Taurat as final words.

Now let's come back to answering your questions;
1-Who are tliban?Do u have any proof they exist?have u ever met Osama and Omer?It is human made term.Taliban is a very nice word which should not be used for so called terrorists.That's what shows me that people are confused as they are using right word for wrong people(as they belive )
There was no suicide bombing incident in Pakistan befor 2004.Why was ther no suicide bombing in Pak before 2004?
I still remeber quite well when Americans attacked a madressa in Bajaur ,a famous journalist from peshawer predicted in The NEws that faimlies of deceased would try to take revenge in respone to that.As these faimlies were unable to take revenge from American they thought of taking revenge from Army,Pro American Politicians and Police as they believed that they are indirectly responsible for drone attacks.
Now my question to you should be,why marriot like suicide bomb did not take place in AnarKali or Moti Baza despite the fact it seems to be a lot easierr?Suicide Bombers have always specific targets and they have always targetted pro American forces.While targetting these specifiic targets common masses too loose their life unfortuantely.
If common masses were their targets they would have attacked their houses.
It is just common sense that this war is reactionary.
We are against any kind terrorism and we want to stop through dialogue.
BottomLine
We are aginst so callled talibans and we are against America's ploicies.

By asif238 @ Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:39 AM | (asif238)

@Mullah Omar

http://pkpolitics.com/2009/03/24/the-swat-deception/#comment-181350

You can find the moles in PTI & one of them is at above link. :)

@Admin

Take care of this 2# mulla

By Liaqat Ali @ Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:58 AM | (LIAQAT ALI)

@ Mulla Omer & Paki

Imran Khan has never condemned the Taliban , he believes ,the Taliban are freedom fighters , fighting against US occupation.
There is no US occupation in Swat , still Taliban are killing Swati people , who are unarmed civillians. .....Why has Imran Khan not condemned Taliban of Swat ?.
While Taliban are burning schools of SWAT , Imran Khan is building a University in Namal . This strange contradiction is hard to comprehend.

I was interested in a socialist Imran Khan.

He had declared that Jagirdars would be held accountable from the days of
Mohammad bin Qasim ..... A wealth / property owners would be required to prove ownership via just means .

People like Mairaj Mohammad Khan got interested in his views .

But Imran Khan has his own ways , he has now changed to supporting Taliban style.

I think people were expecting too much of him. After all the eliteism in him , has restricted his development of political thought. ..... the achitson school , the Zaman Park ,the London , oxford society is not based on realty ........ The poor 90% of Pakistan are a realty far away .
I just wonder has he studied about the history of injustice and causes of poverty in our society.
What does he know about various theological schools (firqas) of Islam.
and finally what does he know about aims and objectives of deobandi firqa , founded after 1857 and Wahabi firqa found in 1744.

By Ahsan Mansoor @ Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:07 AM | (ahsan)

Liaqat,

Imran Khan has condemned Talibans at a number of places, be it Talibans of Swat or Afghanistan. Do you want me to provide you links to his interviews?

Contradiction actually lies in your argument. At one side you are saying that he is supporting Taliban, while on the other you think he is an elite. Probably some new class of elites has born, as per your argument.

He never ever spoke in favor or against any firqa. He believes in the religion of Prophet Muhammad (SAW).

By Paki @ Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:10 PM | (Pakiza)

@Liaqat Ali
let me correct you factually,Taliban leaders(Afghan ones,Mull Omer and his team) have said on occasions that they have nothing to do with so called Talibans in Swat and other areas of Pakistan.Do have any proof that these socalled swati taliban are being insructed by Mulla Omer?Even American report shows that Alqaeda and taliban are not helping the terrorists in Pakistan.
What one needs to understand is that these so called talibans in NWFP started emerging as powerful and sudden increase in their number because of Mush and Bush flawed policies:sending Army into these areas and FATA.It hepled so called Talibans to win public heart and support.
Why recently Miliband in his statement said that using force against talibans has helped talibans in return?
The majority in Swat are in favour of sharia of whatever kind that's not our concern,then why do u have nay prob with that is beyond my understanding?

What do you think of Usman Ghani?Was not he rich?
Goods and bads are evrywhere.Rich peole can be good and Imran is clear example of that.

You seem to be unable to understand simple things.
Do rupee ki rotee teen rupee ka nan
Imran Khan Imran Khan
He had solution for poors and selling bread at cheaper rate made possible and it was Imran and PTI who did that.
He came with the solution of cheaper education and founded NAMAL college for poors.What do u think of that?
What do u think of shaukat Khanum?Was not it for poor?Where has his eletism gone when he came up with these projects?

The problem with you is,You have never studies Quran and that's the only way to judge people.Go and study that....

By Paki @ Thursday, March 26, 2009 1:13 PM | (Pakiza)

@ MUlla Omer
There is a saying"when you don't ask right question,you won't get right answer".
The issue is not condemning them.The issue in fact is stopping them
We have given solution to Govt but they are not paying any attention to that....
Yes I am Paki everywhere and proud of being Paki.
Whereas you are athiest somewhere and Mulla Omer at other times.I doubt somewhere you would pose yourslef as IMran Khan

By Paki @ Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:48 PM | (Pakiza)

@Mulla Omer
How did u know my name is Tahir naqash.Yes I am Tahir naqash by name everywhere and Paki is being used my ID.That's it......
And remeber I do know you quite well.....

Now coming back to ur question,what is he supposed to do?
He is supposed to talk about the issue everywhere he gets oppurtunity.And he has been doing that on priority basis.He recently wrote down an open letter to Obama and gave him some suggestions.
Yes I agree with you that he should frequently visit that area.It's not about Imran only it applies to every Pakistan which includes you and me.....Every pakistani needs to be concerned about this issue and press the people in power to sort out this issue.
But again the problem is what majority of people suggest to sort out this issue doesn't suit the interest of the people in power.People in power believe that power comes with the help of America in our country.Unfortunately we have always got those people in power who never believed in people's power,they rather look for USA support.This mentality needs to be changed......

Now to me it's quite clear that Imran should accpet this responsiblity for bringing change in country and get rid of terrorism and the other issues....
Yes,I again would say that Imran should that area...

By Paki @ Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:58 PM | (Pakiza)

@Mulla Omer
You wrote down in reply to Mr Asif that you are critical supporter of IK.What makes critical supporter of IK?
What proof do you have that Imran is ISI agent?
The only thing which makes you think that is Hameed Gul was part of PTI at the start.
Now since last three years there has been no meeting between Imran and Hameed Gul and Hameed Gul has nothing to do what PTI does now.
does he hold any PTI office?
I wonder, to you ISI is Hameed Gul who is a retired General...Is he still rulin ISI?If he is still ruling ISI then why his daughter Transport Buisness (WARAN)_in Pindi was stopped by Musharaf.His daughter had to face a lot of finacial losses when her buisness was forcefully closed by Musharaf.Why Hameed Gul did not use ISI?
You need to look at things with all possible angles.

By asif238 @ Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:30 PM | (asif238)

@mulla mole

By the way

I still await answers to my folllowing questions

1- When did you, your PM & your president organized a rally led by you, your PM & your president to condemn Talibans crime against humanity in Pakistan ? Please tell me place and date.

3- When did you, your PM & your president visit Fata and Swat to show solidarity with victims of Talibans there? Tell me date please.

By asif238 @ Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:49 PM | (asif238)

Now I will let you know to whom you should held accountable for the mess where these poor people are being killed by both Pakistan govt & their foriegn ally.

Pakistan govt had a very consistant foriegn policy atleast for the last 30 years or so & that is of being assassins(karai k qatil).

First Pakistani govt got money to kill russians in afghanistan & for that purpose they hired arabs from africa & middle east & build fake madrassah to bring those assassins under legal shelter.

Then Pakistani govt got money to kill afghani by the same assassins & then paved the way their govt in afghanistan & had the honor being the first one accepting the taliban rule in afghanistan & helped them both economically & milliterily.

Then Pakistani Govt got the money to kill even their own people & being paid by per killing regardless of being the killed is innocent or not.

These "karai k qatil" are there for almost three decades, have you ever raised your eye-brow for your gernails & politicians who opened their eyes in the corridor GHQ & owe their STATURE to their gernail dadys.

By asif238 @ Friday, March 27, 2009 9:02 AM | (asif238)

@mulla mole

He always asked for dialogue with taliban(your leaders product) to bring peace into the region & save the life of hundreds of people being killed by your dear gernails(krai k qatil) & their foriegn ally.

And then bring the people of that area closer to us & isolate arabs of middle east & africa who have now even their own families over there by the grace of your gernails & their puppets.

Got it or need more....

But the explaination is for those who who have brain inbetween their ears instead of "brain masalah".

Heres something for you

A group of terrorists(trained by state) lives next to your house. Would you support missile attack to get rid of the terrorist regardless of the damage being done by missile to your family members or would you like engage them in dialogue to isolate them from your neighborhood in order to save your family members lives first?

By Agitator PTI @ Saturday, March 28, 2009 8:01 PM | (anti-government)

If liberalism to obey the west ? no I'm not a Liberal

If liberalism is to being vulgar ? no I'm not a Liberal

If Liberalism is to forget your heriitage & to follow the western culture? No I'm not a Liberal

If liberalism is to drink pepsi instead of water? Again I'm not a liberal..

By asif238 @ Monday, March 30, 2009 5:09 AM | (asif238)

@mulla mole

mian mithu chuuri khani aye.

Dude bring something new that we don't know abt our leader Imran Khan, hes public figure right from his teenage.

Yes we don't know abt nawaz mian before he was elevation to power by your buddy, great grand father of taliban, zia. And zardari before marrying to BB. So tell us abt their life before they were elevated power thru back doorz. :)

mulla mole Ab PTI ko rokna tumharey bas ki baat nahi.

See, PTI is least bothered with your vomitting. :)

By asif238 @ Monday, March 30, 2009 7:52 PM | (asif238)

Mian mithu chuuri khani aye!

You don't need to read what I have written, you just need to follow "The servants of Saudi Royal Family & British Royal Family"

You, the servant of servants, in modern language & in old language slave of slaves. :)

Enjoy pissing off...... lolz

By Liaqat Ali @ Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:04 AM | (LIAQAT ALI)

@ Paki

In recent elections almost all PA seats in SWAT were won by ANP.
Your claim that majority of Swati People support Sufi Mohammad's shariah is a lie .
You also seem to not understand, this DEOBANDI shariah is a politital tool , being used to occupy Pakistan , and declare the kingdom of Illitrate MULLAS . Just like Afghanistan under Taliban . Partial occupation of Swat is a second step.

A stand out feature of this type of shariah is , that , it excludes the majority's beliefs. It has a history of declaring other firqas as Kafirs .( see Munir report ). And thus declaring that others are deserving to be killed . This theological school has been responsible of mass killings . eg Sipah e Sahaba killing Shias in Jang and Punjab . Taliban killings of Barelvi and shias in FATA and Northern Areas . And killings of Hazara tribe of Afghanistan.

Sufi Mohammad has condemed democracy as a sin.

Another event to take note of , is recent activism of Sunni Tehrik in Karachi and other Parts of Pakistan . This movement consists of mullas of the Baraelvi sect . They claim to be the biggest firqa in Pakistan , and todate are largely non violent . This Firqa has never been accused of links with ISI or recieving funds / arms from Saudi Wahhabi CIA lobby.

Those mullas and Islamists like the Jamaat Islami and JUI factions
who fought for the Americans in Afghanistan, seem to be more resource full and armed at the moment , but in case of a firqa warana civil war like scenario ,all hell will brake loose on the innocent and poor people of Pakistan.
ala LABANESE civil war , which was not confined to two religous / ethnic groups , but spread to all groups ie, the CRISTIANS , DRUZE , SHIA , SUNNI .

There was a hope that Imran Khan and PTI will set an example of the Politics of ,inclusiveness and providing workable solutions, to the issue of , lack of human and social development in Pakistan , and to provide access to national resources to the majority , who have been denied their share of the national wealth for centuries.

Sadly that has not happened , Pti has become 2nd eleven of Rightwing loosers. It's political activity is mainly tradional confrontation on personalities . It has become reactive instead of active .

I demand elections within the party and a democratic process in decesion making at the top level.

By asif238 @ Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:13 PM | (asif238)

@mulla mole,

Your pain is understandable, you are feeling the heat of "political awareness" which has reached until now to the most neglected & backward areas of Pakistan like Sahiwal & Toba Tak Singh.

You, the servant of servants of Saudi & British royal family blocked successfully the "political awareness" for around six decades by holding on to the PTV & Radio Pakistan. lolz

But now its slipping away after the introduction of hundreds of news channels & online media.

Very simple & clear message of "adalti insaf sey muashi insaf tak" is helping people understan the real cause of their ever increasing poverty & rulers ever increasing wealth both at home & abroad as well.

Your hue & cry along with your beautiful verses is a direct reflection of the CHANGE that you are witnessing in Pakistani people both at home & abroad.

Imran Khan is libera. Listen to the most liberal guy of the world, Obama, how conveniently hes reached to the conclusion of " good & bad taliban". Now you would declare him an extremist too coz hes tending towards a dialogue to bring the peace into the region to fight against terrorism & thus isolating the terrorists from the common people.

And don't forget taliban are also a scapegoat of bush fame doctorine"if you are not with us you are against us". The enemy of bush was not taliban, if you still remember. And by the way this doctorine has failed misrably & new admin has rolled back.

Your pain is understandable, as the control over "political awareness" is slipping away from the servants of saudi & british roayl family.

By Paki @ Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:55 PM | (Pakiza)

@Dear Liaquat
You are a strange person.Where did I say that ufi Mohammed's Sharia should be imposed in Swat?As I did not write down that,then why you wen to discusing all that is beyond my understanding?
The problem with you and many others is that you have never understood how elections are held in Paksitan.Has there been any election in Pakistan which had discussed issues and their solutions?Had any member of both national Assembly and PA gave solution to masses problems?
The answer to both the questions is a big NO.In Paksitan,there has never been issue based voting.We are a society with feaudalism,ethno nationalism and ineffective syatem which does not let good people(especialy poor ones)
come into power.Have you ever seen a poor person with talent has won in the election ?
why has always been turnout in election less than 45%?What the hell the remaing 55% do while election or are not they Pakistani?
The answer is quite simple.In paksitan election has never been election,but we can say people vote for their own personal issue for example a teacher gets transfer to the school of his choice by giving vote to the person who can do that for him.....

Somwhere you wrote down Imran belongs to rightwing.I say Imran is always right but doesn't belong to rightwing.Again the issue with you is you try to understand things using the tems given by Jews.Does the word rightwing exist in Quran.Life revolves around two words,right and wrong.And Imran is always right.....Why don't u use Quranic vocabulary to see people and life?
Please if u are unable to understand the difference between right and wrong then don't blame Imran for that...

By asif238 @ Thursday, April 02, 2009 7:50 AM | (asif238)

@mulla mole,

I am surprised that your logic is still not able to connect your questions to my post above.

Don't worry try it again,

Read your own questions, then my post above & again your questions. And do it thrice, if even then your logic didn't click, let me know. I will help you logically.

By asif238 @ Thursday, April 02, 2009 6:27 PM | (asif238)

Here you go logically;

Taliban were declared terrorists first time by Bush by using his fame doctorine " If you are not with us then you are against us".

So first we have to analyze the doctorine itself that whether its logical or illogical.

You come across thousands of people daily on the road, they don't even notice you. And they are not with you as well coz they are least bothered abt anything happening to you. But at the same time they are not against you.

This is the simple most example to prove that the doctorine itself is illogical. Anyone who is not with us doesn't mean he/she is against us.

And anything based on illiogical reasoning would always remain illogical, means declaring of taliban as terrorist by using this doctorine is illogical.

You are welcome to discuss it with your MIT professors :)

By Paki @ Friday, April 03, 2009 4:04 PM | (Pakiza)

@MULLA Omer(Proud Muslim or Athiest or Leader of Alqaeda or whatever God Knows)

I have been interacting with you since last few months and what I have noticed about you is you are idiot working on special agenda.
I have question for you being a pakistani

Whoever is involved in any form of terrorism,to me and PTI they are bad.We call them bad and you call them Alqaeda or whatever.
Who killed Hakeem Saeed?
Who killed Liaqat Ali Khan?
Who killed Benazir?
Who has killed thousand of common masses?
Do we have any proof and evidence that who were beind these attacks?
We don't know the indiduals or any party,what we know is they are bad people ......

Can you please provide us proof and evidence so that we can move forward.????
If you can't ,then please go home and kill your parents with your stupidity....

Our party has the agenda of fighting against bads that includes every bad person in the country

By jahan noor khan @ Saturday, April 04, 2009 7:47 PM | (jahan noor khan)

remember every one Mullah omer is a activist of MQM.

so pls remember this think that may be there are other users from MQM ect, like Mullah.

By Paki @ Monday, April 06, 2009 3:35 PM | (Pakiza)

@Dear Idiot Mulla or Stupid Athiest

In your last post you wrote down
"Now, you need to understand that PTI is trying to prove that IK is 'liberal just like Quaid-e-Azam", whereas I'm trying to show that IK is not a 'liberal' person at all !! In fact IK tacitly approves many actions of Talibans, he also avoid to condemn Talibans and their brutal actions".
At someother place you wrote down
"I am PTI supporter and but disagrees with the party sometimes"

Don't you see contradiction?
yes,there is clear contradiction....
That's why I wrote down you are an idiot....who is not in mind......

We have got answers for sane people but no one in the world has got answers for stupids....

You had better go to some psychatrist and ask him/her how to get the answer to your question.As there is a saying
"When you don't ask the right question,you won't get the right answer"

Who are you by the way
A liberal, or Atheist or a proud Muslim or simply you don't know

First find out your identity idioit...................,

By Paki @ Monday, April 06, 2009 3:50 PM | (Pakiza)

@ For everyone

http://wondersofpakistan.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/children-of-darkness-killing-them/

By Reasoner @ Monday, May 04, 2009 3:36 PM | (Reasoner)

Who is this Mullah Omar ???

By Reasoner @ Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:17 AM | (Reasoner)

Now there's no ban on IK to visit Sindh, then why he's not coming to Karachi ?
I think he wants to make sure that people from other parts of Pakistan come to Karachi for hi welcome as there were hardly three hundred people on 3rd May, which was Sunday the holiday on the street to welcome IK !!!

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